County Council pension arrangements WILL be investigated by police

First published in News

POLICE have confirmed that pension arrangements for the chief executive of Pembrokeshire County Council and another senior officer will be investigated to ascertain if criminal offences have taken place or not.

In a statement today a spokesman said that the public interest reports relating to Pembrokeshire and Carmarthenshire councils had been fully considered and it had been decide that it was a matter which should be investigated in the public interest by the police.

An outside force will carry out the investigation.

A Dyfed-Powys spokesman said: “Due to the close working relationships and partnership arrangements that exist between Dyfed-Powys Police and both local authorities, it is not appropriate for the Force to carry out the enquiry. As such the matter has been referred to Gloucestershire Constabulary who will undertake the investigation.

“Dyfed-Powys Police would like to make it absolutely clear that this decision has been taken by the Police alone, and has in no way been influenced by political commentary or media reporting on this issue.”

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4:25pm Wed 12 Feb 14

PembrokeshireMan says...

Would the police be looking at this matter if nobody, press included, had shone a light on these underhand dealings?

Of course not.

Still, an investigation into the undertakings of the Pembrokeshire Don is a start.
Would the police be looking at this matter if nobody, press included, had shone a light on these underhand dealings? Of course not. Still, an investigation into the undertakings of the Pembrokeshire Don is a start. PembrokeshireMan
  • Score: 9

4:31pm Wed 12 Feb 14

teifion says...

About ruddy time - will Councillor Adams and the Pembs. press office press office "diss" Dyfed Powys Police now - explaining that he and PCC know more about the Law than any copper?
About ruddy time - will Councillor Adams and the Pembs. press office press office "diss" Dyfed Powys Police now - explaining that he and PCC know more about the Law than any copper? teifion
  • Score: 6

4:42pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Pembrokeshire0301 says...

Pretty sure the Pembrokeshire Herald had this story last week... A story originally broken by the Pembrokeshire Herald last year, which I do believe if it wasn't for them this story wouldn't even be public knowledge :) #justsaying
Pretty sure the Pembrokeshire Herald had this story last week... A story originally broken by the Pembrokeshire Herald last year, which I do believe if it wasn't for them this story wouldn't even be public knowledge :) #justsaying Pembrokeshire0301
  • Score: -7

5:44pm Wed 12 Feb 14

quentin says...

Be interesting now to see how far this investigation gets.
Be interesting now to see how far this investigation gets. quentin
  • Score: 7

6:12pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Welshman23 says...

Fantastic news now BPJ must be suspended pending these enquiries, let's complete a full investigation including all officers. Let's remove and prosecute the bad eggs. No rate payers money must be spent defending these individuals.
Fantastic news now BPJ must be suspended pending these enquiries, let's complete a full investigation including all officers. Let's remove and prosecute the bad eggs. No rate payers money must be spent defending these individuals. Welshman23
  • Score: 17

7:10pm Wed 12 Feb 14

garethjones123 says...

Great to hear "An outside force will carry out the investigation. "...... Lets hope it will be independent and conclusive.... The way this has been conducted to date is obscene... Lets get the truth and let those who have offended accept the consequences....!!!!
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Great to hear "An outside force will carry out the investigation. "...... Lets hope it will be independent and conclusive.... The way this has been conducted to date is obscene... Lets get the truth and let those who have offended accept the consequences....!!!! ! garethjones123
  • Score: 11

8:05pm Wed 12 Feb 14

teifion says...

garethjones123 wrote:
Great to hear "An outside force will carry out the investigation. "...... Lets hope it will be independent and conclusive.... The way this has been conducted to date is obscene... Lets get the truth and let those who have offended accept the consequences....!!!!

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Some council rep.(missed if it was Carms or Pembs) suggested the LGA - the welsh Local Government Association should conduct an independent investigation into the whole situation - he must be jesting - the LGA independent? Its the trades union that represents Councils and senior managers within the Councils - I think we can guess the outcome - give BPJ another £50K due to the stress and strain that that beloved under paid chief exec has suffered
[quote][p][bold]garethjones123[/bold] wrote: Great to hear "An outside force will carry out the investigation. "...... Lets hope it will be independent and conclusive.... The way this has been conducted to date is obscene... Lets get the truth and let those who have offended accept the consequences....!!!! ![/p][/quote]Some council rep.(missed if it was Carms or Pembs) suggested the LGA - the welsh Local Government Association should conduct an independent investigation into the whole situation - he must be jesting - the LGA independent? Its the trades union that represents Councils and senior managers within the Councils - I think we can guess the outcome - give BPJ another £50K due to the stress and strain that that beloved under paid chief exec has suffered teifion
  • Score: 0

10:52pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Gogledd says...

All good and valid points guys I just dont have any faith in the system to see Justice done..sorry..but its how I see it...I think some how they will squirm out of it and will still be here this time nxt year...:-(
All good and valid points guys I just dont have any faith in the system to see Justice done..sorry..but its how I see it...I think some how they will squirm out of it and will still be here this time nxt year...:-( Gogledd
  • Score: 5

11:31pm Wed 12 Feb 14

Flashbang says...

I'm more inclined to support Gogledd's view on this. Will Gloucester be sending experienced fraud officers or the village plod? Dyfed-Powys have been very slow in acting on this and have had to be shamed into finally doing something. Don't count your chickens just yet taxpayers of Pembrokeshire.
I'm more inclined to support Gogledd's view on this. Will Gloucester be sending experienced fraud officers or the village plod? Dyfed-Powys have been very slow in acting on this and have had to be shamed into finally doing something. Don't count your chickens just yet taxpayers of Pembrokeshire. Flashbang
  • Score: 3

8:26am Thu 13 Feb 14

Indeview J Hudson says...

Surely this must raise the question of the competence or bias, of the leading lights of the IPPG, perhaps in the minds of the Group's supine membership?
Surely this must raise the question of the competence or bias, of the leading lights of the IPPG, perhaps in the minds of the Group's supine membership? Indeview J Hudson
  • Score: 4

9:25am Thu 13 Feb 14

Pembsfan says...

Pembrokeshire0301 wrote:
Pretty sure the Pembrokeshire Herald had this story last week... A story originally broken by the Pembrokeshire Herald last year, which I do believe if it wasn't for them this story wouldn't even be public knowledge :) #justsaying
What a load of bloody rubbish. The Herald is irrelevant.
[quote][p][bold]Pembrokeshire0301[/bold] wrote: Pretty sure the Pembrokeshire Herald had this story last week... A story originally broken by the Pembrokeshire Herald last year, which I do believe if it wasn't for them this story wouldn't even be public knowledge :) #justsaying[/p][/quote]What a load of bloody rubbish. The Herald is irrelevant. Pembsfan
  • Score: -3

10:10am Thu 13 Feb 14

hardcheese says...

When a person accepts a responsible position such as Chief Executive of a County Council we expect him or her to set an example to our community.Bryn Parry-Jones has failed to do this. How do you expect people in Pembrokeshire to look up to a Chief Executive who has no interest in what happens in our society. Bryn Parry-Jones has a problem it is called GREED and he has allowed greed to overtake his principles.
When a person accepts a responsible position such as Chief Executive of a County Council we expect him or her to set an example to our community.Bryn Parry-Jones has failed to do this. How do you expect people in Pembrokeshire to look up to a Chief Executive who has no interest in what happens in our society. Bryn Parry-Jones has a problem it is called GREED and he has allowed greed to overtake his principles. hardcheese
  • Score: 8

11:06am Thu 13 Feb 14

Pembrokeshire0301 says...

Pembsfan wrote:
Pembrokeshire0301 wrote:
Pretty sure the Pembrokeshire Herald had this story last week... A story originally broken by the Pembrokeshire Herald last year, which I do believe if it wasn't for them this story wouldn't even be public knowledge :) #justsaying
What a load of bloody rubbish. The Herald is irrelevant.
Is it though? If it wasn't for the herald you wouldn't know anything about this story... It's nice to have one paper in the county which prints the stories we need to read and isn't afraid to speak out
[quote][p][bold]Pembsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pembrokeshire0301[/bold] wrote: Pretty sure the Pembrokeshire Herald had this story last week... A story originally broken by the Pembrokeshire Herald last year, which I do believe if it wasn't for them this story wouldn't even be public knowledge :) #justsaying[/p][/quote]What a load of bloody rubbish. The Herald is irrelevant.[/p][/quote]Is it though? If it wasn't for the herald you wouldn't know anything about this story... It's nice to have one paper in the county which prints the stories we need to read and isn't afraid to speak out Pembrokeshire0301
  • Score: -1

11:47am Thu 13 Feb 14

anoldman says...

I think I agree with Pembrokeshire 0301, this would be on a back burner if it wasn't for the PEMBROKESHIRE HERALD. For instance yesterday the Herald breaking news says, Police called by PCC about Grants awarded for work in P. Dock. Surely the WT are aware of this.
I think I agree with Pembrokeshire 0301, this would be on a back burner if it wasn't for the PEMBROKESHIRE HERALD. For instance yesterday the Herald breaking news says, Police called by PCC about Grants awarded for work in P. Dock. Surely the WT are aware of this. anoldman
  • Score: 3

12:10pm Thu 13 Feb 14

teifion says...

anoldman wrote:
I think I agree with Pembrokeshire 0301, this would be on a back burner if it wasn't for the PEMBROKESHIRE HERALD. For instance yesterday the Herald breaking news says, Police called by PCC about Grants awarded for work in P. Dock. Surely the WT are aware of this.
The effect of PCC advertising revenue and the threat of PCC press office forgetting to tell the WT of important council business - are these things which mfgtt influence the WT ? Not saying these threats made but one gets VERY cynical as you get older and what rises to the top - and it aint cream!
[quote][p][bold]anoldman[/bold] wrote: I think I agree with Pembrokeshire 0301, this would be on a back burner if it wasn't for the PEMBROKESHIRE HERALD. For instance yesterday the Herald breaking news says, Police called by PCC about Grants awarded for work in P. Dock. Surely the WT are aware of this.[/p][/quote]The effect of PCC advertising revenue and the threat of PCC press office forgetting to tell the WT of important council business - are these things which mfgtt influence the WT ? Not saying these threats made but one gets VERY cynical as you get older and what rises to the top - and it aint cream! teifion
  • Score: -1

6:25pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Doc Malik says...

I see the Western Telegraph team have been hard at work with their likes and dislikes (!)

But there is a serious issue here: the problem with what has gone on here is the question of whose bright idea was it to come up with the scheme in the first place?

Did Bryn Parry-Jones think it up himself?

Whichever officer prompted the preparation of the material the councillors based their decision upon will have a lot of questions to answer when Gloucestershire Police come a-knocking!
I see the Western Telegraph team have been hard at work with their likes and dislikes (!) But there is a serious issue here: the problem with what has gone on here is the question of whose bright idea was it to come up with the scheme in the first place? Did Bryn Parry-Jones think it up himself? Whichever officer prompted the preparation of the material the councillors based their decision upon will have a lot of questions to answer when Gloucestershire Police come a-knocking! Doc Malik
  • Score: 0

6:27pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Doc Malik says...

Pembsfan wrote:
Pembrokeshire0301 wrote:
Pretty sure the Pembrokeshire Herald had this story last week... A story originally broken by the Pembrokeshire Herald last year, which I do believe if it wasn't for them this story wouldn't even be public knowledge :) #justsaying
What a load of bloody rubbish. The Herald is irrelevant.
Which member of the Western Telegraph editorial staff could Pembsfan be?
[quote][p][bold]Pembsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pembrokeshire0301[/bold] wrote: Pretty sure the Pembrokeshire Herald had this story last week... A story originally broken by the Pembrokeshire Herald last year, which I do believe if it wasn't for them this story wouldn't even be public knowledge :) #justsaying[/p][/quote]What a load of bloody rubbish. The Herald is irrelevant.[/p][/quote]Which member of the Western Telegraph editorial staff could Pembsfan be? Doc Malik
  • Score: -2

6:48pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Bluestone says...

Understand the barrister will be at the Council meeting tomorrow to 'clarify' why this pension payment is 'not illegal' as opposed to 'being legal'. Who is paying for his fee, BPJ or PCC?
Understand the barrister will be at the Council meeting tomorrow to 'clarify' why this pension payment is 'not illegal' as opposed to 'being legal'. Who is paying for his fee, BPJ or PCC? Bluestone
  • Score: 8

10:09pm Thu 13 Feb 14

pembrokedock123 says...

I tend to agree with Gogledd that " I just dont have any faith in the system to see Justice done." but nevertheless it is good to see some real authorities trying for once
I tend to agree with Gogledd that " I just dont have any faith in the system to see Justice done." but nevertheless it is good to see some real authorities trying for once pembrokedock123
  • Score: 1

10:12pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Welshman23 says...

teifion wrote:
anoldman wrote:
I think I agree with Pembrokeshire 0301, this would be on a back burner if it wasn't for the PEMBROKESHIRE HERALD. For instance yesterday the Herald breaking news says, Police called by PCC about Grants awarded for work in P. Dock. Surely the WT are aware of this.
The effect of PCC advertising revenue and the threat of PCC press office forgetting to tell the WT of important council business - are these things which mfgtt influence the WT ? Not saying these threats made but one gets VERY cynical as you get older and what rises to the top - and it aint cream!
There are no journalists in the WT that have a backbone on investigating the truth this paper is in decline the fiasco in PCC would have been a vote in confidence in the paper, in fact the opposite journalists should be chomping at the bit with this story. Good on the Herald.
Just under 12hours to the long awaited meeting sleep tight all the people under investigation.
[quote][p][bold]teifion[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]anoldman[/bold] wrote: I think I agree with Pembrokeshire 0301, this would be on a back burner if it wasn't for the PEMBROKESHIRE HERALD. For instance yesterday the Herald breaking news says, Police called by PCC about Grants awarded for work in P. Dock. Surely the WT are aware of this.[/p][/quote]The effect of PCC advertising revenue and the threat of PCC press office forgetting to tell the WT of important council business - are these things which mfgtt influence the WT ? Not saying these threats made but one gets VERY cynical as you get older and what rises to the top - and it aint cream![/p][/quote]There are no journalists in the WT that have a backbone on investigating the truth this paper is in decline the fiasco in PCC would have been a vote in confidence in the paper, in fact the opposite journalists should be chomping at the bit with this story. Good on the Herald. Just under 12hours to the long awaited meeting sleep tight all the people under investigation. Welshman23
  • Score: 3

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