Pembrokeshire County Council leader gives backing to under-fire chief executive

Western Telegraph: Council leader Jamie Adams. Council leader Jamie Adams.

FOLLOWING the extraordinary meeting of Pembrokeshire County Council last Friday, council leader Jamie Adams was forthright in his support for under fire chief executive Bryn Parry-Jones.

In an interview with Western Telegraph chief reporter Katy Woodhouse, Cllr Adams went through the various issues which have been raised since the Wales Audit Office declared the pension arrangements of senior council officials, including Mr Parry-Jones, to be unlawful.

Cllr Adams said: “There’s no doubt that strong political leadership in this council and strong professional leadership have been the back bone of how we have ensured good value for money for the tax payers of Pembrokeshire and central to that in a professional capacity is the chief executive."

Cllr Adams added that it did not matter what someone thought about an individual officer they were still an employee and had rights.

"Being a member of senior staff I think that places people in a higher public role and therefore there will be more attraction, and they do attract more comments and views in terms of council's performance.

"I took over as leader less than two years ago and in that time we've been able to demonstrate a very clear move to greater accountability, far more transparency, nobody can tell me that scrutiny arrangements are less robust than any other council in Wales."

He also reiterated the view that the legal advice received by the authority regarding pension payments was not required by members prior to the meeting discussing the Wales Audit Office report declaring the scheme 'unlawful'.

Cllr Adams said that because it pertained to another authority as well as Pembrokeshire County Council it could not be made freely available but it had been agreed that it would be shared once redacted.

"It can be redacted at cost, members are saying what about the cost and now saying we want everything.

“We have come to a position today with the Wales Audit Office report that we affectively accept their recommendations.

“That being the case now that legal advice can be shared by the wider group. Prior to today would have been risky in terms of council legal position.

"I’m confident we can get to a position where the auditor and ourselves can move forward by drafting something that the audit office can look at so we don’t end up in this position two years after the event.

"When you wrote a report in the Western Telegraph in January 2012, it was that report that raised the issue in terms of the audit office becoming aware of it. They came to us at that time an asked about it and we didn’t hear anymore.

"There's no huge gulf between ourselves and the audit office. I have told members what some of the flaws have been - some of the information heard in private sessions was capable of being heard in public session - and we held today's session entirely in public. We are not afraid to be scrutinised in public.

"The pension scheme is in suspension, the decision rescinded. We are employers of the 33 people in the senior staff cohort and have to recognise they have employment rights and will have to consider that as we go forward."

Cllr Adams was also clear that those given advice on whether they should remain in the chamber by counsel after being accused of predetermining their position prior to discussion of a notice of motion calling for the suspension of the chief executive were responsible for their own decisions.

That the councillors surveyed by local newspapers were asked 'should the chief executive resign' not be suspended, and was carried before the notice had been put forward, was not a consideration.

Cllr Adams added that there were four councillors who had expressed a view in support of Mr Parry-Jones which he had felt put them in a similar position to those picked out by Tim Kerr QC who had all expressed views against him and they too had left the chamber.

"We knew we would have to consider the report. If anything it's proven that councillors need to keep their own counsel and not be hoodwinked into giving comments.

"They weren't asked to leave, they took it upon themselves to leave because they had prejudiced their own position.

"It has the potential to undermine any decision we take and the potential to place a member at the door of the ombudsman should a complaint be made."

Cllr Adams said that the legal difference of opinion related to the declaration of officer interests and whether they can take part in decision making meetings or not.

Referring to the presence of the chief executive when the pension arrangements were agreed Cllr Adams said: "Yes, a the meeting of course he had an interest, which we all knew, but we are not shrinking violets. We are not sort of pushed around by the chief executive.

"We have very robust discussions."

Another criticism made clearly at the pension meeting was the lack of detailed information in the minutes of that meeting.

Cllr Adams said that more detailed minutes are produced at all meetings now and the officers present recorded. He also emphasised the fact that no senior officers had been present at Friday's meeting, showing that lessons had been learnt.

When asked if the 'lawful' way the auditor felt pension arrangements could have been made would include not having someone who could benefit at the decision making meeting Cllr Adams said: "Most definitely."

He hoped that those watching the debate would see that the report was discussed fully and that there was enough information available for an informed decision to be taken.

He added that the auditor had agreed that was the case.

"It must be very confusing at times, it must seem a little bit argy bargy and not particularly well structured but we as members have to take responsibility for that. Has that impacted on our ability to get to a conclusion?

"There has to be an agreement in terms of the outcome. Nobody voted against it. A few members abstained, but the democratic body came to decision that it agreed with the auditor's recommendations."

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1:54pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Welshman23 says...

Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW
Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW Welshman23
  • Score: 66

3:16pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Justiceforall says...

How does that old saying go? "As thick as Councillors"
or is it "thick as thieves"? I think more than one member should get their marching orders over this disgraceful pantomime.
How does that old saying go? "As thick as Councillors" or is it "thick as thieves"? I think more than one member should get their marching orders over this disgraceful pantomime. Justiceforall
  • Score: 33

3:49pm Thu 20 Feb 14

ladybench says...

With all due respect Mr Adams Its a little late in the day when the s___s hit the fan to come out with your comments now.After the dirty tricks that have been played for all to see, there is no respect for you our you side kicks.
With all due respect Mr Adams Its a little late in the day when the s___s hit the fan to come out with your comments now.After the dirty tricks that have been played for all to see, there is no respect for you our you side kicks. ladybench
  • Score: 36

3:50pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Electra1 says...

I hope the public remember this come the next election for council.
I hope the public remember this come the next election for council. Electra1
  • Score: 33

4:37pm Thu 20 Feb 14

jeffersgb says...

I wouldn't expect him to say anything else, no back bone. Please can we go back to the days when we had unpaid councillors who did the job because they wanted to. The majority of this lot wouldn't get out of bed in the morning if that was the case now. This is another unnecessary and expensive tier of governing we have to pay for, adding it to the Welsh Assembly, the Police Commissioners, EU Parliament etc etc etc.
I wouldn't expect him to say anything else, no back bone. Please can we go back to the days when we had unpaid councillors who did the job because they wanted to. The majority of this lot wouldn't get out of bed in the morning if that was the case now. This is another unnecessary and expensive tier of governing we have to pay for, adding it to the Welsh Assembly, the Police Commissioners, EU Parliament etc etc etc. jeffersgb
  • Score: 25

4:49pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Cymru bach says...

I don't know who's grinning picture is the more annoying.

The CEO Mr Bryn Parry Jones or the council 'Leader' Cllr Adams

I think that they should both RESIGN immediately.
I don't know who's grinning picture is the more annoying. The CEO Mr Bryn Parry Jones or the council 'Leader' Cllr Adams I think that they should both RESIGN immediately. Cymru bach
  • Score: 31

4:52pm Thu 20 Feb 14

hardcheese says...

One of the problems with a an organisation such as Pembrokeshire C C is that you will always have a "Royal Family".. Council leader Jamie Adams is one of those creeps, he has more feelings for Bryn Parry-Jones than the people in Pembrokeshire that voted for him. I agree with Welshman23.. "DO US ALL A FAVOUR SLING YOUR HOOK AND RESIGH NOW"
One of the problems with a an organisation such as Pembrokeshire C C is that you will always have a "Royal Family".. Council leader Jamie Adams is one of those creeps, he has more feelings for Bryn Parry-Jones than the people in Pembrokeshire that voted for him. I agree with Welshman23.. "DO US ALL A FAVOUR SLING YOUR HOOK AND RESIGH NOW" hardcheese
  • Score: 31

4:53pm Thu 20 Feb 14

SM1968 says...

Strikes me as a man who is completely out of his depth, thinks he is a politician but is frankly now the county laughing stock, as Welshman23 say's do you really think bpj will back you in a fight, not on your life
Strikes me as a man who is completely out of his depth, thinks he is a politician but is frankly now the county laughing stock, as Welshman23 say's do you really think bpj will back you in a fight, not on your life SM1968
  • Score: 34

5:00pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Health fighter says...

If BPJ had any honour he would stand down while the investigation takes place and if JA had any thought for the reputation of Pembrokeshire he would have persuaded him to do so. Clearly both are too concerned with feathering their own nests.
If BPJ had any honour he would stand down while the investigation takes place and if JA had any thought for the reputation of Pembrokeshire he would have persuaded him to do so. Clearly both are too concerned with feathering their own nests. Health fighter
  • Score: 34

5:16pm Thu 20 Feb 14

ukwoody says...

So Jamie Adams says things have never been more transparent and he is all for honesty and openness.

Then he won't mind if we all ask him and BJP to stand down so there can be a totally transparent outside investigation into the running of PCC by him and BJP, after all if there is nothing to find they have nothing to hide and they have nothing to worry about. And don't forget all those councillors who were denied the chance to vote or have their say.

Apparently BJP has bought in strong political and professional leadership, umm what was that about the education service being put in special measures... leadership ?

This is an absolute disgusting disgrace and they should all be removed from office forthwith.
So Jamie Adams says things have never been more transparent and he is all for honesty and openness. Then he won't mind if we all ask him and BJP to stand down so there can be a totally transparent outside investigation into the running of PCC by him and BJP, after all if there is nothing to find they have nothing to hide and they have nothing to worry about. And don't forget all those councillors who were denied the chance to vote or have their say. Apparently BJP has bought in strong political and professional leadership, umm what was that about the education service being put in special measures... leadership ? This is an absolute disgusting disgrace and they should all be removed from office forthwith. ukwoody
  • Score: 36

6:01pm Thu 20 Feb 14

chizy says...

One word springs to mind: DELUDED.
One word springs to mind: DELUDED. chizy
  • Score: 27

6:01pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Gogledd says...

so. he is showing his pre disposition or determination or whatever they call it...towards BJP so if that is how he feels should he not have removed himself from the shambles last week? surely you cannot have a law for one and not the other...
so. he is showing his pre disposition or determination or whatever they call it...towards BJP so if that is how he feels should he not have removed himself from the shambles last week? surely you cannot have a law for one and not the other... Gogledd
  • Score: 33

6:24pm Thu 20 Feb 14

seaveiw says...

Again another statement meaningless to us normal people.they a all decided to stick together until they hope we will forget.I say get real we are struggling to accept that Pembrokeshire has been so well run
Again another statement meaningless to us normal people.they a all decided to stick together until they hope we will forget.I say get real we are struggling to accept that Pembrokeshire has been so well run seaveiw
  • Score: 20

6:25pm Thu 20 Feb 14

PembrokeshireMan says...

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Joseph Goebbels, Adolf Hitler's Propaganda Minister in Nazi Germany.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Joseph Goebbels, Adolf Hitler's Propaganda Minister in Nazi Germany. PembrokeshireMan
  • Score: 37

6:39pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Indepedant says...

Spot on Pembrokeshire Man
Spot on Pembrokeshire Man Indepedant
  • Score: 20

7:00pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Jason77 says...

Much to my wife's annoyance I watched the recorded footage (4 hours) of the extraordinary board meeting and was appalled at the conduct, underhand agenda's, lack of clarity, poor pre requested information, dodgy white envelope, a QC who thought it funny with a lack of understanding on key issues, a meeting called with sensitive information and a police investigation ongoing understandably holding back information. Not once did I hear or feel my vote counted. Leadership at its worst. Some excellent summing up from certain councillors at the end but at best the whole meeting was a waste of tax payers money. If any person there had any morals and values you should add up the hourly rate of everyone in that room including Mr QC and times it by 4 wasted hours and give that money back to the needy within your County. Mr Adams, it didn't look like argy bargy to the untrained eye it looked like incompetence. You defend the CEO's leadership however wasn't special measures brought in recently regarding lack of leadership in a certain department safe guarding our children? Are we falling behind with our high street versus Carmarthan? Transparancy? Please re look that word up. Sometimes your CEO has to lead from the front. This CEO doesn't lead. He unfortunately is out of touch with the very people that look to him for leadership why? Because he doesn't lead. The only way the people of Pembrokeshire will determind the success of the senior council is hopefully how they vote next time. Treat us with the respect our vote deserves.
Much to my wife's annoyance I watched the recorded footage (4 hours) of the extraordinary board meeting and was appalled at the conduct, underhand agenda's, lack of clarity, poor pre requested information, dodgy white envelope, a QC who thought it funny with a lack of understanding on key issues, a meeting called with sensitive information and a police investigation ongoing understandably holding back information. Not once did I hear or feel my vote counted. Leadership at its worst. Some excellent summing up from certain councillors at the end but at best the whole meeting was a waste of tax payers money. If any person there had any morals and values you should add up the hourly rate of everyone in that room including Mr QC and times it by 4 wasted hours and give that money back to the needy within your County. Mr Adams, it didn't look like argy bargy to the untrained eye it looked like incompetence. You defend the CEO's leadership however wasn't special measures brought in recently regarding lack of leadership in a certain department safe guarding our children? Are we falling behind with our high street versus Carmarthan? Transparancy? Please re look that word up. Sometimes your CEO has to lead from the front. This CEO doesn't lead. He unfortunately is out of touch with the very people that look to him for leadership why? Because he doesn't lead. The only way the people of Pembrokeshire will determind the success of the senior council is hopefully how they vote next time. Treat us with the respect our vote deserves. Jason77
  • Score: 39

7:41pm Thu 20 Feb 14

PembrokeshireMan says...

For all the good intentions of a small minority, councillors have no meaningful impact on how our local authority is run any more. Last week's meeting showed them up for what they are - posturing windbags playing small-time politics for the benefit of their own egos. Our votes in local elections have as much effect on how things are run as voting for a favourite singer on the X-Factor. This is modern democracy I suppose.
For all the good intentions of a small minority, councillors have no meaningful impact on how our local authority is run any more. Last week's meeting showed them up for what they are - posturing windbags playing small-time politics for the benefit of their own egos. Our votes in local elections have as much effect on how things are run as voting for a favourite singer on the X-Factor. This is modern democracy I suppose. PembrokeshireMan
  • Score: 25

8:25pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Harrygrayballs says...

UNBELIEVABLE,,,,,,,,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ON
LY IN.................
PEMBROKESHIRE!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!
UNBELIEVABLE,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ON LY IN................. PEMBROKESHIRE!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Harrygrayballs
  • Score: 12

8:42pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Little Miss Tidy says...

Think it's time Jamie Adams took his head out of BPJ 's backside and started looking out for the people of pembrokeshire, what a disgrace of a council we have. These two fools need to go ASAP!
Think it's time Jamie Adams took his head out of BPJ 's backside and started looking out for the people of pembrokeshire, what a disgrace of a council we have. These two fools need to go ASAP! Little Miss Tidy
  • Score: 31

8:55pm Thu 20 Feb 14

South of the Landsker says...

Child Safeguarding,
Estyn Report,
European Grants,
Wales Audit Office Report.
The CEO and Cllr Adams steering the PCC Titanic from iceberg to iceberg.
I guess that what comes when you have a ruling group with no manifesto - Independents until the extra allowances are up for grabs.
Child Safeguarding, Estyn Report, European Grants, Wales Audit Office Report. The CEO and Cllr Adams steering the PCC Titanic from iceberg to iceberg. I guess that what comes when you have a ruling group with no manifesto - Independents until the extra allowances are up for grabs. South of the Landsker
  • Score: 27

9:49pm Thu 20 Feb 14

pembrokedock123 says...

PembrokeshireMan wrote:
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Joseph Goebbels, Adolf Hitler's Propaganda Minister in Nazi Germany.
so so sad that something from Goebbels should be such an accurate description of the local state in Pembrokeshire - how about a campaign to "reclaim the real Pembrokeshire"
[quote][p][bold]PembrokeshireMan[/bold] wrote: "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Joseph Goebbels, Adolf Hitler's Propaganda Minister in Nazi Germany.[/p][/quote]so so sad that something from Goebbels should be such an accurate description of the local state in Pembrokeshire - how about a campaign to "reclaim the real Pembrokeshire" pembrokedock123
  • Score: 22

10:41pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Jason77 says...

I'll give you an accurate description of the CEO - Boss Hogg and Pembs is being run like Hazzard County!
I'll give you an accurate description of the CEO - Boss Hogg and Pembs is being run like Hazzard County! Jason77
  • Score: 14

10:42pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Flashbang says...

Please do not insult the readership of the WT with your delusional excuses and ramblings. We know exactly what your track record is in regards to the dysfunctional running of Pembrokeshire. Lets hope the police investigation looks closely at your out of date expenses claims, did you get your tame QC to advise on that windfall too?
Please do not insult the readership of the WT with your delusional excuses and ramblings. We know exactly what your track record is in regards to the dysfunctional running of Pembrokeshire. Lets hope the police investigation looks closely at your out of date expenses claims, did you get your tame QC to advise on that windfall too? Flashbang
  • Score: 29

7:35am Fri 21 Feb 14

sarah7776 says...

As Cllr Adams pointed out, BJP is an employee of PCC. Why is he not treated as an employee then. If anybody is under investigation for potentially fraudulent activity they are suspended until everything has been cleared up - with the outcome being either reinstatement if innocent or dismissal if guilty. This is especially true if the investigation is being carried out by an outside agency or Police. Also an employee must step out of any meeting when their salary is being discussed as their presence may be considered to sway any decisions. The upper echelons are becoming more farcical by the day!
As Cllr Adams pointed out, BJP is an employee of PCC. Why is he not treated as an employee then. If anybody is under investigation for potentially fraudulent activity they are suspended until everything has been cleared up - with the outcome being either reinstatement if innocent or dismissal if guilty. This is especially true if the investigation is being carried out by an outside agency or Police. Also an employee must step out of any meeting when their salary is being discussed as their presence may be considered to sway any decisions. The upper echelons are becoming more farcical by the day! sarah7776
  • Score: 31

10:18am Fri 21 Feb 14

JonnyBlueJeans says...

It was perfectly clear in the chamber that Jamie Adams support for Bryn was fixed in stone. He needs to be ousted from his position as leader so we can have a more reasoned approach to our paid officials and their conduct.
It was perfectly clear in the chamber that Jamie Adams support for Bryn was fixed in stone. He needs to be ousted from his position as leader so we can have a more reasoned approach to our paid officials and their conduct. JonnyBlueJeans
  • Score: 24

11:08am Fri 21 Feb 14

seaveiw says...

Jamie Adams states as an employee of the council Bryn therefore should be treated as any other employee, suspended whilst an investigation is carried out,especially so when police are investigating. Any other public organisation would not carry on in such a manner,
Jamie Adams states as an employee of the council Bryn therefore should be treated as any other employee, suspended whilst an investigation is carried out,especially so when police are investigating. Any other public organisation would not carry on in such a manner, seaveiw
  • Score: 18

11:12am Fri 21 Feb 14

neil p says...

Contemptible individuals steering the holed, floundering, rotten vessel that is HMS Pembrokeshire CC.

Unfortunately Mutinies are unlawful these days it seems.

Until people stand outside the offices in protest with placards and it makes TV news we can rant on forums as much as we like, the comments here are read only by a small minority.
Contemptible individuals steering the holed, floundering, rotten vessel that is HMS Pembrokeshire CC. Unfortunately Mutinies are unlawful these days it seems. Until people stand outside the offices in protest with placards and it makes TV news we can rant on forums as much as we like, the comments here are read only by a small minority. neil p
  • Score: 19

11:13am Fri 21 Feb 14

seaveiw says...

Indepedant wrote:
Spot on Pembrokeshire Man
speaks for all of us
[quote][p][bold]Indepedant[/bold] wrote: Spot on Pembrokeshire Man[/p][/quote]speaks for all of us seaveiw
  • Score: 14

11:15am Fri 21 Feb 14

seaveiw says...

Welshman23 wrote:
Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW
Do you think this statement was drafted out by the chief executive!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW[/p][/quote]Do you think this statement was drafted out by the chief executive!!!! seaveiw
  • Score: 15

11:19am Fri 21 Feb 14

seaveiw says...

Hope the WT has extra pages with comments publicised
Hope the WT has extra pages with comments publicised seaveiw
  • Score: 20

11:49am Fri 21 Feb 14

chizy says...

I'm afraid Jamie reminds me of Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf or Comical Ali.
This fella was Sadaam Husseins Minister Of Information when the Allies came rolling into April 2003, and he did some belting press conferences!!!
Try 'The Best of Comical Ali' on Google.
You will find some very striking similarities in behaviour...........
.
I'm afraid Jamie reminds me of Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf or Comical Ali. This fella was Sadaam Husseins Minister Of Information when the Allies came rolling into April 2003, and he did some belting press conferences!!! Try 'The Best of Comical Ali' on Google. You will find some very striking similarities in behaviour........... . chizy
  • Score: 15

11:51am Fri 21 Feb 14

Welshman23 says...

seaveiw wrote:
Welshman23 wrote:
Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW
Do you think this statement was drafted out by the chief executive!!!!
Hi Seaview no it was not drafted by the CEO I am not a council member or employee and have nothing to do with this shambolic operation. I want the CEO and Adams to hold their hands up they have mis guided the Pembrokeshire people.
Thank you for the nice comment I will do the CEO job for £100k I will take a reduction from the person who is currently in charge. I will get rid of councillors and the gravy train in the Kremlin. Please vote for me I stand for the common sense party.
[quote][p][bold]seaveiw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW[/p][/quote]Do you think this statement was drafted out by the chief executive!!!![/p][/quote]Hi Seaview no it was not drafted by the CEO I am not a council member or employee and have nothing to do with this shambolic operation. I want the CEO and Adams to hold their hands up they have mis guided the Pembrokeshire people. Thank you for the nice comment I will do the CEO job for £100k I will take a reduction from the person who is currently in charge. I will get rid of councillors and the gravy train in the Kremlin. Please vote for me I stand for the common sense party. Welshman23
  • Score: 19

12:21pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Theodore1 says...

We have as Pembrokeshire electors to accept much of the blame for this shambles. How many enfranchised citizens bother to turn out at election time? Perhaps this crock of poo will persuade one or two more to exercise their vote, but come the time I will bet money that the turn out will remain the same.
There is too much complacency in the electorate, we are all too complacent, dreaming our time away in a beautiful, but politically corrupt, county. "Don't rock the boat" is the motto - someone might notice my fiddle!
We have as Pembrokeshire electors to accept much of the blame for this shambles. How many enfranchised citizens bother to turn out at election time? Perhaps this crock of poo will persuade one or two more to exercise their vote, but come the time I will bet money that the turn out will remain the same. There is too much complacency in the electorate, we are all too complacent, dreaming our time away in a beautiful, but politically corrupt, county. "Don't rock the boat" is the motto - someone might notice my fiddle! Theodore1
  • Score: 20

12:41pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Citizen Pembs says...

neil p wrote:
Contemptible individuals steering the holed, floundering, rotten vessel that is HMS Pembrokeshire CC.

Unfortunately Mutinies are unlawful these days it seems.

Until people stand outside the offices in protest with placards and it makes TV news we can rant on forums as much as we like, the comments here are read only by a small minority.
Yes. This is what is needed. A Pembrokeshire Spring. Non violent.

It is incredulous that in the 21st century, in a so called democracy that the sorry state of affairs in County Hall has been allowed to continue.

Jamie Adams's latest delusional statement is beyond belief.
Comparisons with old style dictatorships and the Orwellian nightmare are quite appropriate . What was the 'extraordinary 'meeting on February 14 other than a Stalinist style show trial, supported by the Thought Police in the names in the envelope charade.?

Jamie you have really lost the plot. Everyone of all ages and political affiliation is talking about the corruption at the heart of that meeting, having viewed the recording and witnessed events first hand. Don't insult the intelligence of the people you serve. We don't need flawed propaganda to explain and justify events in the Chamber.

What happened on that day confirms the worse suspicions of the rotteness within Pembrokeshire County Council 's inner cabal.

Now we have the evidence.
[quote][p][bold]neil p[/bold] wrote: Contemptible individuals steering the holed, floundering, rotten vessel that is HMS Pembrokeshire CC. Unfortunately Mutinies are unlawful these days it seems. Until people stand outside the offices in protest with placards and it makes TV news we can rant on forums as much as we like, the comments here are read only by a small minority.[/p][/quote]Yes. This is what is needed. A Pembrokeshire Spring. Non violent. It is incredulous that in the 21st century, in a so called democracy that the sorry state of affairs in County Hall has been allowed to continue. Jamie Adams's latest delusional statement is beyond belief. Comparisons with old style dictatorships and the Orwellian nightmare are quite appropriate . What was the 'extraordinary 'meeting on February 14 other than a Stalinist style show trial, supported by the Thought Police in the names in the envelope charade.? Jamie you have really lost the plot. Everyone of all ages and political affiliation is talking about the corruption at the heart of that meeting, having viewed the recording and witnessed events first hand. Don't insult the intelligence of the people you serve. We don't need flawed propaganda to explain and justify events in the Chamber. What happened on that day confirms the worse suspicions of the rotteness within Pembrokeshire County Council 's inner cabal. Now we have the evidence. Citizen Pembs
  • Score: 34

2:16pm Fri 21 Feb 14

hardcheese says...

Bryn Parry-Jones has accrued £1.5m in his Council Pension from which he will get a lump sum on retirement and a pension of around £100K a year. That is a pension that all of us in Pembrokeshire have funded through our rates. A £1.5m pension pot was NOT enough for greedy Bryn.He had to be given an incentive to stay in Pembrokeshire so he could get help to avoid tax on his pension. PEMBROKESHIRE C C IS THE MOST CORRUPT COUNCIL IN WALES THANKS TO GREEDY BRYN .....
Bryn Parry-Jones has accrued £1.5m in his Council Pension from which he will get a lump sum on retirement and a pension of around £100K a year. That is a pension that all of us in Pembrokeshire have funded through our rates. A £1.5m pension pot was NOT enough for greedy Bryn.He had to be given an incentive to stay in Pembrokeshire so he could get help to avoid tax on his pension. PEMBROKESHIRE C C IS THE MOST CORRUPT COUNCIL IN WALES THANKS TO GREEDY BRYN ..... hardcheese
  • Score: 28

8:18pm Fri 21 Feb 14

sammychips says...

could it be that our dear Jamie is the other senior councillor who gained from the unlawful pension arrangement which, is why he is such a devoted follower of BJP?
could it be that our dear Jamie is the other senior councillor who gained from the unlawful pension arrangement which, is why he is such a devoted follower of BJP? sammychips
  • Score: 11

9:28pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Welshman23 says...

sammychips wrote:
could it be that our dear Jamie is the other senior councillor who gained from the unlawful pension arrangement which, is why he is such a devoted follower of BJP?
Never thought of this because the benefactors apart from Bryn have not been named why perhaps there is so many of them the do not know who they are. Rotten from the top .
[quote][p][bold]sammychips[/bold] wrote: could it be that our dear Jamie is the other senior councillor who gained from the unlawful pension arrangement which, is why he is such a devoted follower of BJP?[/p][/quote]Never thought of this because the benefactors apart from Bryn have not been named why perhaps there is so many of them the do not know who they are. Rotten from the top . Welshman23
  • Score: 13

10:15pm Fri 21 Feb 14

sammychips says...

or perhaps Huw George devout whatever but comes up smelling of roses in his new job always in the news pushed sideways from previous n fair play to western telegraph for their substantial coverage on this matter not so bad after all !!!!!!!!
or perhaps Huw George devout whatever but comes up smelling of roses in his new job always in the news pushed sideways from previous n fair play to western telegraph for their substantial coverage on this matter not so bad after all !!!!!!!! sammychips
  • Score: 10

1:58am Sat 22 Feb 14

Welshman23 says...

sammychips wrote:
or perhaps Huw George devout whatever but comes up smelling of roses in his new job always in the news pushed sideways from previous n fair play to western telegraph for their substantial coverage on this matter not so bad after all !!!!!!!!
I hope Rev George gives up his seat because he is just as bad as the rest of them leave politics alone and concentrate on your flock.
[quote][p][bold]sammychips[/bold] wrote: or perhaps Huw George devout whatever but comes up smelling of roses in his new job always in the news pushed sideways from previous n fair play to western telegraph for their substantial coverage on this matter not so bad after all !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]I hope Rev George gives up his seat because he is just as bad as the rest of them leave politics alone and concentrate on your flock. Welshman23
  • Score: 13

8:35am Sat 22 Feb 14

Little Miss Tidy says...

Would it not be perfect to hold a demonstration at county hall on Shrove Tuesday, The word shrove is the past tense of the English verb shrive, which means to obtain absolution for one's sins by way of Confession and doing penance. Maybe Bryn and his cronies will take heed of its meaning .Also pretty apt that it's pancake day and the council is full of tossers!
Would it not be perfect to hold a demonstration at county hall on Shrove Tuesday, The word shrove is the past tense of the English verb shrive, which means to obtain absolution for one's sins by way of Confession and doing penance. Maybe Bryn and his cronies will take heed of its meaning .Also pretty apt that it's pancake day and the council is full of tossers! Little Miss Tidy
  • Score: 19

8:43am Sat 22 Feb 14

Tttoommy says...

shouldn't Adams face a vote of no confidence ?

There must be some decent councillors within the IPPG who must be ashamed of what has been done in their names - they with all the other councillors could then get rid of Jamie - democracy should not be left in the hands of these ppl,

it makes a mockery of ppl who have died in Syria and the Ukraine trying to bring democracy to their countries :(
shouldn't Adams face a vote of no confidence ? There must be some decent councillors within the IPPG who must be ashamed of what has been done in their names - they with all the other councillors could then get rid of Jamie - democracy should not be left in the hands of these ppl, it makes a mockery of ppl who have died in Syria and the Ukraine trying to bring democracy to their countries :( Tttoommy
  • Score: 16

8:49am Sat 22 Feb 14

Electra1 says...

Tttoommy wrote:
shouldn't Adams face a vote of no confidence ?

There must be some decent councillors within the IPPG who must be ashamed of what has been done in their names - they with all the other councillors could then get rid of Jamie - democracy should not be left in the hands of these ppl,

it makes a mockery of ppl who have died in Syria and the Ukraine trying to bring democracy to their countries :(
I just wish those who are in the Independent Plus group would tell voters where their allegiances lie in the General Election. I wouldn't vote for someone on the local council who is a fan of Cameron. I am sure others feel the same.
[quote][p][bold]Tttoommy[/bold] wrote: shouldn't Adams face a vote of no confidence ? There must be some decent councillors within the IPPG who must be ashamed of what has been done in their names - they with all the other councillors could then get rid of Jamie - democracy should not be left in the hands of these ppl, it makes a mockery of ppl who have died in Syria and the Ukraine trying to bring democracy to their countries :([/p][/quote]I just wish those who are in the Independent Plus group would tell voters where their allegiances lie in the General Election. I wouldn't vote for someone on the local council who is a fan of Cameron. I am sure others feel the same. Electra1
  • Score: 11

9:05am Sat 22 Feb 14

Welshman23 says...

The Pembrookeshire Herald is running a story which suggests that a vote of no confidence is being raised by a number of councillors for the next meeting in March.
Journalists at the WT as per usual have mentioned nothing they must employ journalists that are totally out of ther depths the should read the Pembrokeshire Herald web site they might learn something.
Incidentally the person running the Telegrapgh are they aware of the goings on at the Kremlin this person should be licking her lips with some investigative journalism on the problems at PCC. Getting a naive reporter to talk to Adams she should have gone for the jugular and asked serious questions , late expenses etc etc. Adams can defend his CEO but forget to claim expenses for 4 years, perhaps he does not need the money, so donate your salary to charity.
The Pembrookeshire Herald is running a story which suggests that a vote of no confidence is being raised by a number of councillors for the next meeting in March. Journalists at the WT as per usual have mentioned nothing they must employ journalists that are totally out of ther depths the should read the Pembrokeshire Herald web site they might learn something. Incidentally the person running the Telegrapgh are they aware of the goings on at the Kremlin this person should be licking her lips with some investigative journalism on the problems at PCC. Getting a naive reporter to talk to Adams she should have gone for the jugular and asked serious questions , late expenses etc etc. Adams can defend his CEO but forget to claim expenses for 4 years, perhaps he does not need the money, so donate your salary to charity. Welshman23
  • Score: 8

9:16am Sat 22 Feb 14

Welshman23 says...

Jamie supporting BPJ in the WT who made this decision , not one of your best ideas. Did your puppet master instruct you do do this .
You fellow IPPG cronies must be laughing all the way to the bank thinking what a complete fool talking to the WT. These members will be walking over you to get at the £45k salary you earn,
How secure is our details on this blog, the WT are not controversial so I am sure our names etc are available to PCC.
Does anyone from the WT read these if so why don't they add their comments. Oh no PCC spend to much of our money on advertising.
Newspapers that have good journalist would have been over this story like a rash, and put a balanced argument forward.
Thank god for social media this could see the end of the Telegraph.
Jamie supporting BPJ in the WT who made this decision , not one of your best ideas. Did your puppet master instruct you do do this . You fellow IPPG cronies must be laughing all the way to the bank thinking what a complete fool talking to the WT. These members will be walking over you to get at the £45k salary you earn, How secure is our details on this blog, the WT are not controversial so I am sure our names etc are available to PCC. Does anyone from the WT read these if so why don't they add their comments. Oh no PCC spend to much of our money on advertising. Newspapers that have good journalist would have been over this story like a rash, and put a balanced argument forward. Thank god for social media this could see the end of the Telegraph. Welshman23
  • Score: 7

9:24am Sat 22 Feb 14

Welshman23 says...

Welshman23 wrote:
Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW
Thank you to the 49 people who have given the thumbs up. As mentioned I am not a member of any political party work for the council or have any links to the Kremlin.
I am a proud Welshman, and proud to be born and bred in Pembrokeshire. I hate to see these idiots destroying my fantastic county. I do a lot of travelling in the UK and when asked where do I live and mention Pembrokeshire everyone says how lucky I am. Living in a beautiful part of the UK. I am sure if our people had the same passion like my fellow bloggers then these issues would get sorted.
Power to the Pembrokeshire People.
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW[/p][/quote]Thank you to the 49 people who have given the thumbs up. As mentioned I am not a member of any political party work for the council or have any links to the Kremlin. I am a proud Welshman, and proud to be born and bred in Pembrokeshire. I hate to see these idiots destroying my fantastic county. I do a lot of travelling in the UK and when asked where do I live and mention Pembrokeshire everyone says how lucky I am. Living in a beautiful part of the UK. I am sure if our people had the same passion like my fellow bloggers then these issues would get sorted. Power to the Pembrokeshire People. Welshman23
  • Score: 15

11:02am Sat 22 Feb 14

seaveiw says...

Welshman23 wrote:
sammychips wrote:
could it be that our dear Jamie is the other senior councillor who gained from the unlawful pension arrangement which, is why he is such a devoted follower of BJP?
Never thought of this because the benefactors apart from Bryn have not been named why perhaps there is so many of them the do not know who they are. Rotten from the top .
We need to know who the others are,maybe even more of our the ratepayers money has been investerd in these people!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sammychips[/bold] wrote: could it be that our dear Jamie is the other senior councillor who gained from the unlawful pension arrangement which, is why he is such a devoted follower of BJP?[/p][/quote]Never thought of this because the benefactors apart from Bryn have not been named why perhaps there is so many of them the do not know who they are. Rotten from the top .[/p][/quote]We need to know who the others are,maybe even more of our the ratepayers money has been investerd in these people!!!!!! seaveiw
  • Score: 10

11:12am Sat 22 Feb 14

seaveiw says...

I worked in the NHS for 40years.can you imagine if all those working nowadays were treated as BP there would not be enough money to invest in the pension scheme collectively.I presume the local government authority have avery similar scheme, if therefore BP wants to opt out he should invest only his own money, a similar opt out scheme was offered to NHS workers but wjth out any employer contributions he wants as they say up north the cat and its skin as well.GREEDY MAN.
I worked in the NHS for 40years.can you imagine if all those working nowadays were treated as BP there would not be enough money to invest in the pension scheme collectively.I presume the local government authority have avery similar scheme, if therefore BP wants to opt out he should invest only his own money, a similar opt out scheme was offered to NHS workers but wjth out any employer contributions he wants as they say up north the cat and its skin as well.GREEDY MAN. seaveiw
  • Score: 10

11:34am Sat 22 Feb 14

pembrokedock123 says...

I thought the still unnamed 'other senior officer' was not a councillor but a senior staff member. this information should have been public by now. is this other person also part of the inquiry by the police? there will be members of the public dealing with the other person who has taken unlawful cash payments and are not aware of his problem. it needs to be made public now. why was this other person not named in the Public Interest Report in the first place when Bryn Parry Jones was?
I thought the still unnamed 'other senior officer' was not a councillor but a senior staff member. this information should have been public by now. is this other person also part of the inquiry by the police? there will be members of the public dealing with the other person who has taken unlawful cash payments and are not aware of his problem. it needs to be made public now. why was this other person not named in the Public Interest Report in the first place when Bryn Parry Jones was? pembrokedock123
  • Score: 15

11:59am Sat 22 Feb 14

PembrokeshireMan says...

There is little, if any, journalism going on at the Western Telegraph and it has been this way for as long as I can remember.

The WT is an advertising rag full of press releases from public bodies interspersed with police arrest details and court reports. Week after week we see the same PCC faces in the photos, feeding their overblown egos.

The WT exists to make money for its publishers, nothing more, nothing less. It has long been in the pocket of PCC and is only sticking its head above the parapet now the tide of feeling has turned. No doubt it wants to be on the good side of those in charge in the future.

We should no more expect real journalism from the WT than we should from Hello magazine or Take a Break.

The real journalism about Pembrokeshire can be found at Grumpy or Jacob's blog.
There is little, if any, journalism going on at the Western Telegraph and it has been this way for as long as I can remember. The WT is an advertising rag full of press releases from public bodies interspersed with police arrest details and court reports. Week after week we see the same PCC faces in the photos, feeding their overblown egos. The WT exists to make money for its publishers, nothing more, nothing less. It has long been in the pocket of PCC and is only sticking its head above the parapet now the tide of feeling has turned. No doubt it wants to be on the good side of those in charge in the future. We should no more expect real journalism from the WT than we should from Hello magazine or Take a Break. The real journalism about Pembrokeshire can be found at Grumpy or Jacob's blog. PembrokeshireMan
  • Score: 10

12:50pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Indeview J Hudson says...

The auditor was looking at the 2012/13 items of account. Only one officer had opted for the pensions alternative payment in that year.
During this audit, it appeared that another officer had opted in for 2013/14.
Both payment arrangements have now been accepted as flawed by the Council and such payments will have to be reversed ( and paid back?).Iit will have to abide by proper procedures if it wants to re- introduce this retention and recruitment initiative with more substantial evidence.
Hopefully this will also identify exactly how many senior officers posts this initiative applies to if all opted in.
One further new hurdle is that Chief Officer's remuneration is now subject to assessment by the Independent Remuneration Panel for Wales, so the IPG will not be able to do as it, and its officers, want..
The auditor was looking at the 2012/13 items of account. Only one officer had opted for the pensions alternative payment in that year. During this audit, it appeared that another officer had opted in for 2013/14. Both payment arrangements have now been accepted as flawed by the Council and such payments will have to be reversed ( and paid back?).Iit will have to abide by proper procedures if it wants to re- introduce this retention and recruitment initiative with more substantial evidence. Hopefully this will also identify exactly how many senior officers posts this initiative applies to if all opted in. One further new hurdle is that Chief Officer's remuneration is now subject to assessment by the Independent Remuneration Panel for Wales, so the IPG will not be able to do as it, and its officers, want.. Indeview J Hudson
  • Score: 14

6:46pm Sat 22 Feb 14

sammychips says...

Ha the same man that signed of Jamie Adams out of date expenses what a joke about time we bring in the auditors for everything ,Angela Burns keep up the pressure and see it through for investigation
Ha the same man that signed of Jamie Adams out of date expenses what a joke about time we bring in the auditors for everything ,Angela Burns keep up the pressure and see it through for investigation sammychips
  • Score: 13

8:07am Sun 23 Feb 14

Flashbang says...

Ukraine has got rid of it's despotic ruler, now for the people of Pembrokeshire to do the same. Run away Jamie and take BJP with you.
Ukraine has got rid of it's despotic ruler, now for the people of Pembrokeshire to do the same. Run away Jamie and take BJP with you. Flashbang
  • Score: 7

8:25am Sun 23 Feb 14

Flashbang says...

And BPJ!!!
And BPJ!!! Flashbang
  • Score: 5

10:22am Sun 23 Feb 14

Welshman23 says...

Flashbang wrote:
Ukraine has got rid of it's despotic ruler, now for the people of Pembrokeshire to do the same. Run away Jamie and take BJP with you.
Perhaps this a new job for both of these employees of PCC
[quote][p][bold]Flashbang[/bold] wrote: Ukraine has got rid of it's despotic ruler, now for the people of Pembrokeshire to do the same. Run away Jamie and take BJP with you.[/p][/quote]Perhaps this a new job for both of these employees of PCC Welshman23
  • Score: 7

10:30am Sun 23 Feb 14

Welshman23 says...

In an interview with Western Telegraph chief reporter Katy Woodhouse, Cllr Adams went through the various issues which have been raised since the Wales Audit Office declared the pension arrangements of senior council officials, including Mr Parry-Jones, to be unlawful.
This is an extract from the interview if this is the standard of journalism from your chief reporter then I would question her as she had an opportunity to nail some important questions but she missed this opportunity is this person in touch with the Pembrokeshire people or is she from outside the county. The editor should question her approach and take an example from the Pembrokeshire Herald the No1 in investigation journalism in Pembrokeshire.
WT start listening to the people in Pembrokeshire we need you to report everything just remember that the hierarchy at PCC may not be here for ever so get your act together and start digging the dirt.
In an interview with Western Telegraph chief reporter Katy Woodhouse, Cllr Adams went through the various issues which have been raised since the Wales Audit Office declared the pension arrangements of senior council officials, including Mr Parry-Jones, to be unlawful. This is an extract from the interview if this is the standard of journalism from your chief reporter then I would question her as she had an opportunity to nail some important questions but she missed this opportunity is this person in touch with the Pembrokeshire people or is she from outside the county. The editor should question her approach and take an example from the Pembrokeshire Herald the No1 in investigation journalism in Pembrokeshire. WT start listening to the people in Pembrokeshire we need you to report everything just remember that the hierarchy at PCC may not be here for ever so get your act together and start digging the dirt. Welshman23
  • Score: 5

10:42am Sun 23 Feb 14

Electra1 says...

Welshman23 wrote:
In an interview with Western Telegraph chief reporter Katy Woodhouse, Cllr Adams went through the various issues which have been raised since the Wales Audit Office declared the pension arrangements of senior council officials, including Mr Parry-Jones, to be unlawful.
This is an extract from the interview if this is the standard of journalism from your chief reporter then I would question her as she had an opportunity to nail some important questions but she missed this opportunity is this person in touch with the Pembrokeshire people or is she from outside the county. The editor should question her approach and take an example from the Pembrokeshire Herald the No1 in investigation journalism in Pembrokeshire.
WT start listening to the people in Pembrokeshire we need you to report everything just remember that the hierarchy at PCC may not be here for ever so get your act together and start digging the dirt.
If the WT want to increase their sales they need to give them what the people of Pembrokeshire want..............th
e truth about PCC and the Independent Plus party.
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: In an interview with Western Telegraph chief reporter Katy Woodhouse, Cllr Adams went through the various issues which have been raised since the Wales Audit Office declared the pension arrangements of senior council officials, including Mr Parry-Jones, to be unlawful. This is an extract from the interview if this is the standard of journalism from your chief reporter then I would question her as she had an opportunity to nail some important questions but she missed this opportunity is this person in touch with the Pembrokeshire people or is she from outside the county. The editor should question her approach and take an example from the Pembrokeshire Herald the No1 in investigation journalism in Pembrokeshire. WT start listening to the people in Pembrokeshire we need you to report everything just remember that the hierarchy at PCC may not be here for ever so get your act together and start digging the dirt.[/p][/quote]If the WT want to increase their sales they need to give them what the people of Pembrokeshire want..............th e truth about PCC and the Independent Plus party. Electra1
  • Score: 7

12:05pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Harrygrayballs says...

@Electra1
@Welshman23
Far be it for me to defend the WT's journalism but surely
there can't be any complaint about the way they dealt
with PCC issues this week??
@Electra1 @Welshman23 Far be it for me to defend the WT's journalism but surely there can't be any complaint about the way they dealt with PCC issues this week?? Harrygrayballs
  • Score: 13

12:29pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Electra1 says...

Harrygrayballs wrote:
@Electra1
@Welshman23
Far be it for me to defend the WT's journalism but surely
there can't be any complaint about the way they dealt
with PCC issues this week??
No, but I am just waiting for all these comments to disappear.
[quote][p][bold]Harrygrayballs[/bold] wrote: @Electra1 @Welshman23 Far be it for me to defend the WT's journalism but surely there can't be any complaint about the way they dealt with PCC issues this week??[/p][/quote]No, but I am just waiting for all these comments to disappear. Electra1
  • Score: 2

12:49pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Harrygrayballs says...

@Electra1
Recently very large numbers of comments have been allowed
with regard to PCC issues......long may it continue.
@Welshman23.
If you doubt the security of this website don't make comments!!
@Electra1 Recently very large numbers of comments have been allowed with regard to PCC issues......long may it continue. @Welshman23. If you doubt the security of this website don't make comments!! Harrygrayballs
  • Score: 9

2:26pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Jason77 says...

The newspaper that fights for Pembrokeshire. Contact wtnews@westerntelegr
aph.co.uk

Taken from the WT twitter bio.... I believe they do to a point. However, speculation is sometimes dangerous. I think tougher questions need to be asked certainly. I'd also like to see more investigational journalism on the PCC. Not asking for the a fake sheik aka (the Sun) but something that gets to the real route of the issue quickly. Even with all the issues surrounding BPJ he is hardly quaking from the negative press the WT are writing.

The Pembs Herald certainly has more edge currently and seems to face into scandal! Both papers though I think do a good job. However, WT in your next editor review going through the sales numbers I'd think you'd sell more if you stop quoting, got off the fence and dug under the skin!
The newspaper that fights for Pembrokeshire. Contact wtnews@westerntelegr aph.co.uk Taken from the WT twitter bio.... I believe they do to a point. However, speculation is sometimes dangerous. I think tougher questions need to be asked certainly. I'd also like to see more investigational journalism on the PCC. Not asking for the a fake sheik aka (the Sun) but something that gets to the real route of the issue quickly. Even with all the issues surrounding BPJ he is hardly quaking from the negative press the WT are writing. The Pembs Herald certainly has more edge currently and seems to face into scandal! Both papers though I think do a good job. However, WT in your next editor review going through the sales numbers I'd think you'd sell more if you stop quoting, got off the fence and dug under the skin! Jason77
  • Score: 7

2:50pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Welshman23 says...

Harrygrayballs wrote:
@Electra1
Recently very large numbers of comments have been allowed
with regard to PCC issues......long may it continue.
@Welshman23.
If you doubt the security of this website don't make comments!!
I have not problem with the security but when a fellow bloggers name people who they think have benefited I was just making a comment be careful.
Your comment about the WT handling this weeks events I along with my fellow bloggers listened to the fiasco a week last Friday could have written the article. Their chief reporter interviewing Jamie Adams the questions seemed to be given to him before hand she should have gone for the juggler vein, an employee of the council being investigated by the police and still in work. If it was any other person they would be suspended pending an enquiry. This outfit is rotten at the top, the loyal staff had to take pay cuts so these people at the top could keep up their standards. You cannot defend the un defendable. These people who have received the benefits on this pension without paying tax a nice little earner.
[quote][p][bold]Harrygrayballs[/bold] wrote: @Electra1 Recently very large numbers of comments have been allowed with regard to PCC issues......long may it continue. @Welshman23. If you doubt the security of this website don't make comments!![/p][/quote]I have not problem with the security but when a fellow bloggers name people who they think have benefited I was just making a comment be careful. Your comment about the WT handling this weeks events I along with my fellow bloggers listened to the fiasco a week last Friday could have written the article. Their chief reporter interviewing Jamie Adams the questions seemed to be given to him before hand she should have gone for the juggler vein, an employee of the council being investigated by the police and still in work. If it was any other person they would be suspended pending an enquiry. This outfit is rotten at the top, the loyal staff had to take pay cuts so these people at the top could keep up their standards. You cannot defend the un defendable. These people who have received the benefits on this pension without paying tax a nice little earner. Welshman23
  • Score: 7

3:20pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Harrygrayballs says...

It is ludicrous and probably unprecedented that a PCC employee under police investigation should not be suspended pending the outcome of such investigation..
It is equally absurd that this employee is being endorsed by the leader of PCC.
I too watched the farce of the Valentines Day meeting with disbelief and incredulity.The irony of the date was not wasted on me!!
As for the WT's coverage of the farce,the"special comment"
written by Lee Day was accurate and to the point.
I look forward to this saga unfolding in the media.
It is ludicrous and probably unprecedented that a PCC employee under police investigation should not be suspended pending the outcome of such investigation.. It is equally absurd that this employee is being endorsed by the leader of PCC. I too watched the farce of the Valentines Day meeting with disbelief and incredulity.The irony of the date was not wasted on me!! As for the WT's coverage of the farce,the"special comment" written by Lee Day was accurate and to the point. I look forward to this saga unfolding in the media. Harrygrayballs
  • Score: 15

4:04pm Sun 23 Feb 14

seaveiw says...

Welshman23 wrote:
Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW
One thing that worries me is the lack of any mention of this saga on either BBC Wales and ITV is there any reason for this,wondered if it was because of the police investigation, but cant recall much before.
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW[/p][/quote]One thing that worries me is the lack of any mention of this saga on either BBC Wales and ITV is there any reason for this,wondered if it was because of the police investigation, but cant recall much before. seaveiw
  • Score: 7

4:04pm Sun 23 Feb 14

seaveiw says...

Welshman23 wrote:
Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW
One thing that worries me is the lack of any mention of this saga on either BBC Wales and ITV is there any reason for this,wondered if it was because of the police investigation, but cant recall much before.
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW[/p][/quote]One thing that worries me is the lack of any mention of this saga on either BBC Wales and ITV is there any reason for this,wondered if it was because of the police investigation, but cant recall much before. seaveiw
  • Score: 6

4:04pm Sun 23 Feb 14

seaveiw says...

Welshman23 wrote:
Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW
One thing that worries me is the lack of any mention of this saga on either BBC Wales and ITV is there any reason for this,wondered if it was because of the police investigation, but cant recall much before.
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW[/p][/quote]One thing that worries me is the lack of any mention of this saga on either BBC Wales and ITV is there any reason for this,wondered if it was because of the police investigation, but cant recall much before. seaveiw
  • Score: 9

4:07pm Sun 23 Feb 14

pembrokedock123 says...

controversial leader runs away in the night after being ousted through democratic process following mass pubic protests and claims of leader's accrual of vast amounts of private wealth - unfortunately not Pembrokeshire but Ukraine ...
controversial leader runs away in the night after being ousted through democratic process following mass pubic protests and claims of leader's accrual of vast amounts of private wealth - unfortunately not Pembrokeshire but Ukraine ... pembrokedock123
  • Score: 9

7:42pm Sun 23 Feb 14

Welshman23 says...

pembrokedock123 wrote:
controversial leader runs away in the night after being ousted through democratic process following mass pubic protests and claims of leader's accrual of vast amounts of private wealth - unfortunately not Pembrokeshire but Ukraine ...
We can live I hope there may be some spares seats on the plane. Perhaps Carmarthenshire will allow them political asylum.
[quote][p][bold]pembrokedock123[/bold] wrote: controversial leader runs away in the night after being ousted through democratic process following mass pubic protests and claims of leader's accrual of vast amounts of private wealth - unfortunately not Pembrokeshire but Ukraine ...[/p][/quote]We can live I hope there may be some spares seats on the plane. Perhaps Carmarthenshire will allow them political asylum. Welshman23
  • Score: 8

9:19am Mon 24 Feb 14

Tttoommy says...

Conspiracy ?

Just a bit concerned that some of the comments here haven't been taken down after all they look to me a bit close to "illegal"

Wonder if Adams and BPJs cronies deliberately haven't complained or is the WT in on it?

As BPJs a solicitor could it possibly be his ultimate "get out of jail card" - could all these disparaging comments mean that he cannot be taken to court as the ppl of Pembroke have pre-judged the case?

Let me assure everyone - he can be taken outside Pembrokeshire to have his day in Court!

ha ha ha Bryn
Conspiracy ? Just a bit concerned that some of the comments here haven't been taken down after all they look to me a bit close to "illegal" Wonder if Adams and BPJs cronies deliberately haven't complained or is the WT in on it? As BPJs a solicitor could it possibly be his ultimate "get out of jail card" - could all these disparaging comments mean that he cannot be taken to court as the ppl of Pembroke have pre-judged the case? Let me assure everyone - he can be taken outside Pembrokeshire to have his day in Court! ha ha ha Bryn Tttoommy
  • Score: 4

9:30am Mon 24 Feb 14

Flashbang says...

You have to laugh at Jamie Adams' ludicrous attempt to come off looking like a savvy political operator. Plenty of things spring to mind but astute politician, no way.
You have to laugh at Jamie Adams' ludicrous attempt to come off looking like a savvy political operator. Plenty of things spring to mind but astute politician, no way. Flashbang
  • Score: 6

10:56am Mon 24 Feb 14

Martin Lewis says...

The comments naming the second officer have now gone, too late though, everyone now knows.
The comments naming the second officer have now gone, too late though, everyone now knows. Martin Lewis
  • Score: 3

2:18pm Mon 24 Feb 14

seaveiw says...

Welshman23 wrote:
Welshman23 wrote:
Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW
Thank you to the 49 people who have given the thumbs up. As mentioned I am not a member of any political party work for the council or have any links to the Kremlin.
I am a proud Welshman, and proud to be born and bred in Pembrokeshire. I hate to see these idiots destroying my fantastic county. I do a lot of travelling in the UK and when asked where do I live and mention Pembrokeshire everyone says how lucky I am. Living in a beautiful part of the UK. I am sure if our people had the same passion like my fellow bloggers then these issues would get sorted.
Power to the Pembrokeshire People.
Athough I am not Welsh I love Pembrokeshire, and democracy wherever we live in the UK we should expect it. It is high time now for the Welsh Assembly to make its opinion known.
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: Jamie you have lost the plot your CEO is under police investigation and you come out to defend him, your comments should have been said after all the investigations had taken place and the outcome. I believe you are naive beyond and your comments and the actions of your IPG political party are despicable. you are over your depth and would suggest that you return to your original career and leave local politics with people that understand the feeling of Pembrokeshire people. One final question I wonder if BPJ will come out and support you when your expenses were not submitted for many years NO. You and your IPG members should listen to the people that voted for you, the ship you are captain off is sinking fast. Do us all a favour sling your hook and resign NOW[/p][/quote]Thank you to the 49 people who have given the thumbs up. As mentioned I am not a member of any political party work for the council or have any links to the Kremlin. I am a proud Welshman, and proud to be born and bred in Pembrokeshire. I hate to see these idiots destroying my fantastic county. I do a lot of travelling in the UK and when asked where do I live and mention Pembrokeshire everyone says how lucky I am. Living in a beautiful part of the UK. I am sure if our people had the same passion like my fellow bloggers then these issues would get sorted. Power to the Pembrokeshire People.[/p][/quote]Athough I am not Welsh I love Pembrokeshire, and democracy wherever we live in the UK we should expect it. It is high time now for the Welsh Assembly to make its opinion known. seaveiw
  • Score: 5

4:05pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Tttoommy says...

Martin Lewis wrote:
The comments naming the second officer have now gone, too late though, everyone now knows.
why the secrecy? is this greedy guy not aware we'll all find out in the Councils accounts unless of course he thinks paying the money back despite the issue on HIS FINANCES (clue there:) his name will remain secret and he might even keep his job
[quote][p][bold]Martin Lewis[/bold] wrote: The comments naming the second officer have now gone, too late though, everyone now knows.[/p][/quote]why the secrecy? is this greedy guy not aware we'll all find out in the Councils accounts unless of course he thinks paying the money back despite the issue on HIS FINANCES (clue there:) his name will remain secret and he might even keep his job Tttoommy
  • Score: 4

10:44pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Welshman23 says...

Martin Lewis wrote:
The comments naming the second officer have now gone, too late though, everyone now knows.
The name has been removed no smoke without fire what's his name again and he holds a high position in the council. Perhaps this person is already having his collar felt by the boys in blue.
[quote][p][bold]Martin Lewis[/bold] wrote: The comments naming the second officer have now gone, too late though, everyone now knows.[/p][/quote]The name has been removed no smoke without fire what's his name again and he holds a high position in the council. Perhaps this person is already having his collar felt by the boys in blue. Welshman23
  • Score: 4

11:20pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Flashbang says...

Welshman23 wrote:
Martin Lewis wrote:
The comments naming the second officer have now gone, too late though, everyone now knows.
The name has been removed no smoke without fire what's his name again and he holds a high position in the council. Perhaps this person is already having his collar felt by the boys in blue.
Unfortunately more than likely a secret deal where the money gets paid back quietly and no further action. At worst a quiet resignation and a glowing recommendation to some unsuspecting council far far away. If you are waiting for justice with this shambles don't hold your breath.
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Martin Lewis[/bold] wrote: The comments naming the second officer have now gone, too late though, everyone now knows.[/p][/quote]The name has been removed no smoke without fire what's his name again and he holds a high position in the council. Perhaps this person is already having his collar felt by the boys in blue.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately more than likely a secret deal where the money gets paid back quietly and no further action. At worst a quiet resignation and a glowing recommendation to some unsuspecting council far far away. If you are waiting for justice with this shambles don't hold your breath. Flashbang
  • Score: 7

8:38am Tue 25 Feb 14

Tttoommy says...

Flashbang wrote:
Welshman23 wrote:
Martin Lewis wrote:
The comments naming the second officer have now gone, too late though, everyone now knows.
The name has been removed no smoke without fire what's his name again and he holds a high position in the council. Perhaps this person is already having his collar felt by the boys in blue.
Unfortunately more than likely a secret deal where the money gets paid back quietly and no further action. At worst a quiet resignation and a glowing recommendation to some unsuspecting council far far away. If you are waiting for justice with this shambles don't hold your breath.
That's how these ppl get jobs - an union leader with no banking experience become the Chairman of the Co-op Bank, Our EU Foreign secretary Baroness somebody was an NHS administrator, Brightons Chief Exec paid half a million to "retire" as he didn't get on with the new Council Leader and those who are whistle blowers - IF they're lucky they get a small handout and sign a confidentiality clause - which IMHO If its hiding illegal actions must itself be illegal - others get sacked and hounded through the courts for doing the right thing
[quote][p][bold]Flashbang[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Martin Lewis[/bold] wrote: The comments naming the second officer have now gone, too late though, everyone now knows.[/p][/quote]The name has been removed no smoke without fire what's his name again and he holds a high position in the council. Perhaps this person is already having his collar felt by the boys in blue.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately more than likely a secret deal where the money gets paid back quietly and no further action. At worst a quiet resignation and a glowing recommendation to some unsuspecting council far far away. If you are waiting for justice with this shambles don't hold your breath.[/p][/quote]That's how these ppl get jobs - an union leader with no banking experience become the Chairman of the Co-op Bank, Our EU Foreign secretary Baroness somebody was an NHS administrator, Brightons Chief Exec paid half a million to "retire" as he didn't get on with the new Council Leader and those who are whistle blowers - IF they're lucky they get a small handout and sign a confidentiality clause - which IMHO If its hiding illegal actions must itself be illegal - others get sacked and hounded through the courts for doing the right thing Tttoommy
  • Score: 1

12:43pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Rockface says...

Little Miss Tidy wrote:
Would it not be perfect to hold a demonstration at county hall on Shrove Tuesday, The word shrove is the past tense of the English verb shrive, which means to obtain absolution for one's sins by way of Confession and doing penance. Maybe Bryn and his cronies will take heed of its meaning .Also pretty apt that it's pancake day and the council is full of tossers!
We could put them in stocks and throw pancakes at them!
[quote][p][bold]Little Miss Tidy[/bold] wrote: Would it not be perfect to hold a demonstration at county hall on Shrove Tuesday, The word shrove is the past tense of the English verb shrive, which means to obtain absolution for one's sins by way of Confession and doing penance. Maybe Bryn and his cronies will take heed of its meaning .Also pretty apt that it's pancake day and the council is full of tossers![/p][/quote]We could put them in stocks and throw pancakes at them! Rockface
  • Score: 4

4:53pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Tttoommy says...

Welshman23 wrote:
Martin Lewis wrote:
The comments naming the second officer have now gone, too late though, everyone now knows.
The name has been removed no smoke without fire what's his name again and he holds a high position in the council. Perhaps this person is already having his collar felt by the boys in blue.
Has the WT been asked or told to censor itself regarding the Head of Finance guy (was it ?) or is there one of those famous superinjunctions - the final kick in the teeth of every decent tax payer in Pembs would be IF the injunction was paid out of our taxes.

I do wonder when there are possibly some quite contentious possibly libelous statements made about others in this fiasco and they have NOT been removed
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Martin Lewis[/bold] wrote: The comments naming the second officer have now gone, too late though, everyone now knows.[/p][/quote]The name has been removed no smoke without fire what's his name again and he holds a high position in the council. Perhaps this person is already having his collar felt by the boys in blue.[/p][/quote]Has the WT been asked or told to censor itself regarding the Head of Finance guy (was it ?) or is there one of those famous superinjunctions - the final kick in the teeth of every decent tax payer in Pembs would be IF the injunction was paid out of our taxes. I do wonder when there are possibly some quite contentious possibly libelous statements made about others in this fiasco and they have NOT been removed Tttoommy
  • Score: 2

9:12am Thu 27 Feb 14

Rockface says...

Welshman23 wrote:
In an interview with Western Telegraph chief reporter Katy Woodhouse, Cllr Adams went through the various issues which have been raised since the Wales Audit Office declared the pension arrangements of senior council officials, including Mr Parry-Jones, to be unlawful.
This is an extract from the interview if this is the standard of journalism from your chief reporter then I would question her as she had an opportunity to nail some important questions but she missed this opportunity is this person in touch with the Pembrokeshire people or is she from outside the county. The editor should question her approach and take an example from the Pembrokeshire Herald the No1 in investigation journalism in Pembrokeshire.
WT start listening to the people in Pembrokeshire we need you to report everything just remember that the hierarchy at PCC may not be here for ever so get your act together and start digging the dirt.
What questions do you suggest should have been asked?
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: In an interview with Western Telegraph chief reporter Katy Woodhouse, Cllr Adams went through the various issues which have been raised since the Wales Audit Office declared the pension arrangements of senior council officials, including Mr Parry-Jones, to be unlawful. This is an extract from the interview if this is the standard of journalism from your chief reporter then I would question her as she had an opportunity to nail some important questions but she missed this opportunity is this person in touch with the Pembrokeshire people or is she from outside the county. The editor should question her approach and take an example from the Pembrokeshire Herald the No1 in investigation journalism in Pembrokeshire. WT start listening to the people in Pembrokeshire we need you to report everything just remember that the hierarchy at PCC may not be here for ever so get your act together and start digging the dirt.[/p][/quote]What questions do you suggest should have been asked? Rockface
  • Score: 0

12:06pm Wed 19 Mar 14

seaveiw says...

Welshman23 wrote:
The Pembrookeshire Herald is running a story which suggests that a vote of no confidence is being raised by a number of councillors for the next meeting in March.
Journalists at the WT as per usual have mentioned nothing they must employ journalists that are totally out of ther depths the should read the Pembrokeshire Herald web site they might learn something.
Incidentally the person running the Telegrapgh are they aware of the goings on at the Kremlin this person should be licking her lips with some investigative journalism on the problems at PCC. Getting a naive reporter to talk to Adams she should have gone for the jugular and asked serious questions , late expenses etc etc. Adams can defend his CEO but forget to claim expenses for 4 years, perhaps he does not need the money, so donate your salary to charity.
Have noticed too hardly any coverage on tv programes why they had much more to say about Caerphilly council and there misdeamours, I have had emails from Simon Crabb and Angela Burns assuring they are both aware of the big problem at P.P.C.seems everyone is waiting for the Gloucester Police report hope it is isn't delayed for too long.
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: The Pembrookeshire Herald is running a story which suggests that a vote of no confidence is being raised by a number of councillors for the next meeting in March. Journalists at the WT as per usual have mentioned nothing they must employ journalists that are totally out of ther depths the should read the Pembrokeshire Herald web site they might learn something. Incidentally the person running the Telegrapgh are they aware of the goings on at the Kremlin this person should be licking her lips with some investigative journalism on the problems at PCC. Getting a naive reporter to talk to Adams she should have gone for the jugular and asked serious questions , late expenses etc etc. Adams can defend his CEO but forget to claim expenses for 4 years, perhaps he does not need the money, so donate your salary to charity.[/p][/quote]Have noticed too hardly any coverage on tv programes why they had much more to say about Caerphilly council and there misdeamours, I have had emails from Simon Crabb and Angela Burns assuring they are both aware of the big problem at P.P.C.seems everyone is waiting for the Gloucester Police report hope it is isn't delayed for too long. seaveiw
  • Score: 0

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