Councillors approve Sunnybank closure 'with a heavy heart'

PEMBROKESHIRE County Council’s Cabinet approved the closure of a Narberth residential home on Monday morning.

Members were unanimous in agreeing the recommendation to close Sunnybank, but said they did so with a heavy heart.

The home, which has eight residents, has recently been the subject of a 15-week consultation period.

A report to the council last November revealed that the cost of maintaining each resident at the home was more than £1,000 a week- more than twice the cost of commissioning a residential placement in the independent sector.

It also said that repairing physical defects of the 1960s building and bringing it up to modern day stands would cost the council around £3 million.

Following the decision there will be no new admissions to the home while existing residents will be supported to move to alternative accommodation of their choice.

Key stakeholders left the meeting disheartened, along with the local member Councillor Wynne Evans who has been heavily involved in the scrutiny process of the review.

Cllr David Simpson said: “I’ve had many conversations with Wynne. In Narberth he’s had to deal with the pool closure, a school closure and now this.

“Out of three, this is by far the worst as there is no satisfactory outcome.”

Councillor Elwyn Morse said: “It’ll be a sad day when Sunnybank closes, and for the people who have worked tirelessly there.”

The leader of the council, Councillor Jamie Adams added: “We’ll do all we can to support staff and residents through this process.

“It is not a position of our choosing, but one we have to take responsibility for.”

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7:42am Tue 11 Mar 14

Electra1 says...

But they didn't want to suspend BPJ.
But they didn't want to suspend BPJ. Electra1
  • Score: 12

9:48am Tue 11 Mar 14

Gogledd says...

Empathy and Sympathy has gone out of the window.
Empathy and Sympathy has gone out of the window. Gogledd
  • Score: 9

9:50am Tue 11 Mar 14

Gogledd says...

Just one more...when u are young you dont think about these things, Old age is something that happens to other people. As u get older u realise and the words of your parents and grandparents echo in your ears..no one wants u when you are old..and what is going to happen to me?..
Just one more...when u are young you dont think about these things, Old age is something that happens to other people. As u get older u realise and the words of your parents and grandparents echo in your ears..no one wants u when you are old..and what is going to happen to me?.. Gogledd
  • Score: 6

10:18am Tue 11 Mar 14

JonnyBlueJeans says...

£3 million repair bill? Have this county council never spent any money on repairs before? This is an awful lot of money they are talking about and needs to be varified before taken as gospel. Remember this council has a habit of stretching the truth to suit it's needs
£3 million repair bill? Have this county council never spent any money on repairs before? This is an awful lot of money they are talking about and needs to be varified before taken as gospel. Remember this council has a habit of stretching the truth to suit it's needs JonnyBlueJeans
  • Score: 6

11:51am Tue 11 Mar 14

seaveiw says...

I have an idea cinvert the palace of power in to a social centre day care social facilities for all with special needs whether mental or physical, and a care home.Nice new building wont need a lot spending on it, lovely river views then move the council essential staff up to the defunct library building.
I have an idea cinvert the palace of power in to a social centre day care social facilities for all with special needs whether mental or physical, and a care home.Nice new building wont need a lot spending on it, lovely river views then move the council essential staff up to the defunct library building. seaveiw
  • Score: 6

11:57am Tue 11 Mar 14

seaveiw says...

Gogledd wrote:
Empathy and Sympathy has gone out of the window.
Why does it cost more than the private sector, mostly because the care received is not of the same quality, they save money by employing less qualified staff and also in not being monitored as per national guidelines. I know of a nursing home where residents are put to bed at 7pm and have to be up and dressed by 730 that is no way to treat theelderly
[quote][p][bold]Gogledd[/bold] wrote: Empathy and Sympathy has gone out of the window.[/p][/quote]Why does it cost more than the private sector, mostly because the care received is not of the same quality, they save money by employing less qualified staff and also in not being monitored as per national guidelines. I know of a nursing home where residents are put to bed at 7pm and have to be up and dressed by 730 that is no way to treat theelderly seaveiw
  • Score: 6

12:23pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Indeview J Hudson says...

Apparently the Council is required to have a "Corporate Asset plan" covering maintenance, renewal and replacement of its properties..
While this is in the hand of Officers, it is within the remit of the Cabinet, and if reported, could therefore be open to scrutiny by Committees.
Some years ago the cabinet washed its hands of the whole thing and as recommended by officers, delegated the whole process and "investment " plans into the hands of officers who do not now need to report matters to Cabinet.
So who is responsible for non-maintenance and non- investment over a period of years? Unelected professional Officer's are, under corporate governance arrangements without any oversight by our elected councillors, so there is no political input..
Apparently the Council is required to have a "Corporate Asset plan" covering maintenance, renewal and replacement of its properties.. While this is in the hand of Officers, it is within the remit of the Cabinet, and if reported, could therefore be open to scrutiny by Committees. Some years ago the cabinet washed its hands of the whole thing and as recommended by officers, delegated the whole process and "investment " plans into the hands of officers who do not now need to report matters to Cabinet. So who is responsible for non-maintenance and non- investment over a period of years? Unelected professional Officer's are, under corporate governance arrangements without any oversight by our elected councillors, so there is no political input.. Indeview J Hudson
  • Score: 6

2:13pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Eckysense says...

£3,000,000 to modernise one residential care home - that is ridiculous! We needed to refurbish one property, not build a dozen new ones. Why does it cost less than £500 a week to maintain one resident in a private sector home and £1000 per week when run by this council. If these councillors left the meeting with a heavy heart, then why vote for the closure? Oh, so many questions.
£3,000,000 to modernise one residential care home - that is ridiculous! We needed to refurbish one property, not build a dozen new ones. Why does it cost less than £500 a week to maintain one resident in a private sector home and £1000 per week when run by this council. If these councillors left the meeting with a heavy heart, then why vote for the closure? Oh, so many questions. Eckysense
  • Score: 6

3:22pm Tue 11 Mar 14

save sunnybank says...

Eckysense wrote:
£3,000,000 to modernise one residential care home - that is ridiculous! We needed to refurbish one property, not build a dozen new ones. Why does it cost less than £500 a week to maintain one resident in a private sector home and £1000 per week when run by this council. If these councillors left the meeting with a heavy heart, then why vote for the closure? Oh, so many questions.
The Cabinet & the Public have been misinformed. The decision to close was pre-determined & Sunnybank was run down intentionally as a means to an end. The costings for refurb should be open for scrutiny. Costed at £1400 a sq metre realistically should be less than £1000 sq m. AND it it does meet minimum standards as it is. No-one is demanding en-suites.
10 residents were costing £500 per wk each not £1000 and this with heat pouring out through large single glazed windows. Heavy heart? Lies,lies and more lies
[quote][p][bold]Eckysense[/bold] wrote: £3,000,000 to modernise one residential care home - that is ridiculous! We needed to refurbish one property, not build a dozen new ones. Why does it cost less than £500 a week to maintain one resident in a private sector home and £1000 per week when run by this council. If these councillors left the meeting with a heavy heart, then why vote for the closure? Oh, so many questions.[/p][/quote]The Cabinet & the Public have been misinformed. The decision to close was pre-determined & Sunnybank was run down intentionally as a means to an end. The costings for refurb should be open for scrutiny. Costed at £1400 a sq metre realistically should be less than £1000 sq m. AND it it does meet minimum standards as it is. No-one is demanding en-suites. 10 residents were costing £500 per wk each not £1000 and this with heat pouring out through large single glazed windows. Heavy heart? Lies,lies and more lies save sunnybank
  • Score: 8

3:46pm Tue 11 Mar 14

save sunnybank says...

Indeview J Hudson wrote:
Apparently the Council is required to have a "Corporate Asset plan" covering maintenance, renewal and replacement of its properties..
While this is in the hand of Officers, it is within the remit of the Cabinet, and if reported, could therefore be open to scrutiny by Committees.
Some years ago the cabinet washed its hands of the whole thing and as recommended by officers, delegated the whole process and "investment " plans into the hands of officers who do not now need to report matters to Cabinet.
So who is responsible for non-maintenance and non- investment over a period of years? Unelected professional Officer's are, under corporate governance arrangements without any oversight by our elected councillors, so there is no political input..
Freedom of Information requests are being processed regarding Sunnybank's maintenance schedule for last 10 years & details of the brief given to the architect of original plans for refurbishment. There is proof of pre-determination
and the numbers don't add up. Cabinet were misinformed and decision should have gone to Overview & Scrutiny...
[quote][p][bold]Indeview J Hudson[/bold] wrote: Apparently the Council is required to have a "Corporate Asset plan" covering maintenance, renewal and replacement of its properties.. While this is in the hand of Officers, it is within the remit of the Cabinet, and if reported, could therefore be open to scrutiny by Committees. Some years ago the cabinet washed its hands of the whole thing and as recommended by officers, delegated the whole process and "investment " plans into the hands of officers who do not now need to report matters to Cabinet. So who is responsible for non-maintenance and non- investment over a period of years? Unelected professional Officer's are, under corporate governance arrangements without any oversight by our elected councillors, so there is no political input..[/p][/quote]Freedom of Information requests are being processed regarding Sunnybank's maintenance schedule for last 10 years & details of the brief given to the architect of original plans for refurbishment. There is proof of pre-determination and the numbers don't add up. Cabinet were misinformed and decision should have gone to Overview & Scrutiny... save sunnybank
  • Score: 5

3:58pm Tue 11 Mar 14

save sunnybank says...

Sunnybank Residential Home in Narberth had Cabinet decision to close yesterday. Solicitor has advised we can ask for Judicial Review on basis the consultation was pre-determined & Cabinet was misinformed. to do this we need 'person of straw' to represent us for legal aid. This person's income must be less than £16,000 a yr. preferably someone on benefits, and not a home owner. If this describes you & you would like to help please call me on 01834 831735 / 07749448913 Polly
Sunnybank Residential Home in Narberth had Cabinet decision to close yesterday. Solicitor has advised we can ask for Judicial Review on basis the consultation was pre-determined & Cabinet was misinformed. to do this we need 'person of straw' to represent us for legal aid. This person's income must be less than £16,000 a yr. preferably someone on benefits, and not a home owner. If this describes you & you would like to help please call me on 01834 831735 / 07749448913 Polly save sunnybank
  • Score: 6

4:15pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Tttoommy says...

Councillors have a heavy heart? My a**!

Time and time again we've seen them only motivated by greed, self interest and a special allowance for being subserviant boys and girls that "look the other way" - representing their electorate doesn't come a poor 87th as it doesn't appear at all on their reasons to be at the trough - sorry, I meant represent their fellow citizens.
Councillors have a heavy heart? My a**! Time and time again we've seen them only motivated by greed, self interest and a special allowance for being subserviant boys and girls that "look the other way" - representing their electorate doesn't come a poor 87th as it doesn't appear at all on their reasons to be at the trough - sorry, I meant represent their fellow citizens. Tttoommy
  • Score: 5

9:44pm Tue 11 Mar 14

Seymour Clearly says...

When the senior members of our council decided to hire a barrister to protect their interests,,cost was not a consideration.Howeve
r ,the same criteria is not used to protect the vulnerable in our society.
I haven't any idea what a refurbishment would cost,but even if it was £3 million,we would have a suitable premises to house a lot more than ten residents and at a more cost effective value.
Furthermore,If the private sector can make a profit,by charging pcc for providing this service,why can't our council save that profit by undertaking the service in house.
In the last few years several million pounds has been spent on building the carbuncle in Prendergast,known as the Archive Centre, and also the former Tax office, which is having money thrown at it on a refurbishment.
It would be interesting to know how much the Chief executives office suite cost to furnish.
When the senior members of our council decided to hire a barrister to protect their interests,,cost was not a consideration.Howeve r ,the same criteria is not used to protect the vulnerable in our society. I haven't any idea what a refurbishment would cost,but even if it was £3 million,we would have a suitable premises to house a lot more than ten residents and at a more cost effective value. Furthermore,If the private sector can make a profit,by charging pcc for providing this service,why can't our council save that profit by undertaking the service in house. In the last few years several million pounds has been spent on building the carbuncle in Prendergast,known as the Archive Centre, and also the former Tax office, which is having money thrown at it on a refurbishment. It would be interesting to know how much the Chief executives office suite cost to furnish. Seymour Clearly
  • Score: 7

6:14am Wed 12 Mar 14

malcolm calver says...

Let us face reality, the present funding of Pembrokeshire County Council by the ratepayers / taxpayers of Pembrokeshire is unsustainable.
There is no way councillors could have justified keeping this residential home operating at twice the cost per resident than private homes in the county. Questions need asking as to how long this home has been operating at such a high cost per resident and why elected councillors have allowed this to happen.
Whist we can all suggest examples of other services that could and should in fact be cut, that is what we elect county councillors to do.on our behalf.
Let us face reality, the present funding of Pembrokeshire County Council by the ratepayers / taxpayers of Pembrokeshire is unsustainable. There is no way councillors could have justified keeping this residential home operating at twice the cost per resident than private homes in the county. Questions need asking as to how long this home has been operating at such a high cost per resident and why elected councillors have allowed this to happen. Whist we can all suggest examples of other services that could and should in fact be cut, that is what we elect county councillors to do.on our behalf. malcolm calver
  • Score: 1

6:50am Wed 12 Mar 14

Electra1 says...

Seymour Clearly wrote:
When the senior members of our council decided to hire a barrister to protect their interests,,cost was not a consideration.Howeve

r ,the same criteria is not used to protect the vulnerable in our society.
I haven't any idea what a refurbishment would cost,but even if it was £3 million,we would have a suitable premises to house a lot more than ten residents and at a more cost effective value.
Furthermore,If the private sector can make a profit,by charging pcc for providing this service,why can't our council save that profit by undertaking the service in house.
In the last few years several million pounds has been spent on building the carbuncle in Prendergast,known as the Archive Centre, and also the former Tax office, which is having money thrown at it on a refurbishment.
It would be interesting to know how much the Chief executives office suite cost to furnish.
Nice name, Seymour Clearly :)
[quote][p][bold]Seymour Clearly[/bold] wrote: When the senior members of our council decided to hire a barrister to protect their interests,,cost was not a consideration.Howeve r ,the same criteria is not used to protect the vulnerable in our society. I haven't any idea what a refurbishment would cost,but even if it was £3 million,we would have a suitable premises to house a lot more than ten residents and at a more cost effective value. Furthermore,If the private sector can make a profit,by charging pcc for providing this service,why can't our council save that profit by undertaking the service in house. In the last few years several million pounds has been spent on building the carbuncle in Prendergast,known as the Archive Centre, and also the former Tax office, which is having money thrown at it on a refurbishment. It would be interesting to know how much the Chief executives office suite cost to furnish.[/p][/quote]Nice name, Seymour Clearly :) Electra1
  • Score: 3

10:43am Wed 12 Mar 14

seaveiw says...

malcolm calver wrote:
Let us face reality, the present funding of Pembrokeshire County Council by the ratepayers / taxpayers of Pembrokeshire is unsustainable.
There is no way councillors could have justified keeping this residential home operating at twice the cost per resident than private homes in the county. Questions need asking as to how long this home has been operating at such a high cost per resident and why elected councillors have allowed this to happen.
Whist we can all suggest examples of other services that could and should in fact be cut, that is what we elect county councillors to do.on our behalf.
Cut administration costs in the county hall,and the obvious appoint new officials on a lesser salary.
[quote][p][bold]malcolm calver[/bold] wrote: Let us face reality, the present funding of Pembrokeshire County Council by the ratepayers / taxpayers of Pembrokeshire is unsustainable. There is no way councillors could have justified keeping this residential home operating at twice the cost per resident than private homes in the county. Questions need asking as to how long this home has been operating at such a high cost per resident and why elected councillors have allowed this to happen. Whist we can all suggest examples of other services that could and should in fact be cut, that is what we elect county councillors to do.on our behalf.[/p][/quote]Cut administration costs in the county hall,and the obvious appoint new officials on a lesser salary. seaveiw
  • Score: 5

10:49am Wed 12 Mar 14

seaveiw says...

Its obvious to me make cuts in another way,reduce the amount of administration costs of running the P.C.C.can someone tell me how much prorata to the population it costs,compared to another comparable area. For too long this council has been run inefficiently too late now to make excuses.
Its obvious to me make cuts in another way,reduce the amount of administration costs of running the P.C.C.can someone tell me how much prorata to the population it costs,compared to another comparable area. For too long this council has been run inefficiently too late now to make excuses. seaveiw
  • Score: 4

11:39am Wed 12 Mar 14

save sunnybank says...

sent to Cllr Bryan this morning
The decision to close Sunnybank was predetermined and the decision was based on misinformation. It has been intentionally run down to justify closure. Potential clients have been told it is closing. There is enough evidence to ask for a JR. Costs quoted for refurbishment & actual cost of residents to PCC are incorrect. Plans presented to back up refurbishment costs were irrelevant and unexplained.
This is a request to the Overview & Scrutiny Committee for them to please visit Sunnybank and to call in the decision.
It is in the interest of all residents in Pembrokeshire to keep this unique home open.
It is not sub-standard or derelict. Families of residents and staff are willing to do serious fund raising. Double glazing and solar panels would have an immediate financial benefit to the Council.
If members of the Council visit this home, it will become clear why it is so important to keep this ideally located facility.
There is no wish to cause more embarrassment to PCC or drain it's finances, but the JR ball is ready to roll!
sent to Cllr Bryan this morning The decision to close Sunnybank was predetermined and the decision was based on misinformation. It has been intentionally run down to justify closure. Potential clients have been told it is closing. There is enough evidence to ask for a JR. Costs quoted for refurbishment & actual cost of residents to PCC are incorrect. Plans presented to back up refurbishment costs were irrelevant and unexplained. This is a request to the Overview & Scrutiny Committee for them to please visit Sunnybank and to call in the decision. It is in the interest of all residents in Pembrokeshire to keep this unique home open. It is not sub-standard or derelict. Families of residents and staff are willing to do serious fund raising. Double glazing and solar panels would have an immediate financial benefit to the Council. If members of the Council visit this home, it will become clear why it is so important to keep this ideally located facility. There is no wish to cause more embarrassment to PCC or drain it's finances, but the JR ball is ready to roll! save sunnybank
  • Score: 5

6:09pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Seymour Clearly says...

Electra1 wrote:
Seymour Clearly wrote:
When the senior members of our council decided to hire a barrister to protect their interests,,cost was not a consideration.Howeve


r ,the same criteria is not used to protect the vulnerable in our society.
I haven't any idea what a refurbishment would cost,but even if it was £3 million,we would have a suitable premises to house a lot more than ten residents and at a more cost effective value.
Furthermore,If the private sector can make a profit,by charging pcc for providing this service,why can't our council save that profit by undertaking the service in house.
In the last few years several million pounds has been spent on building the carbuncle in Prendergast,known as the Archive Centre, and also the former Tax office, which is having money thrown at it on a refurbishment.
It would be interesting to know how much the Chief executives office suite cost to furnish.
Nice name, Seymour Clearly :)
Electra 1.
It was either Seymour Clearly or I.P.freely
[quote][p][bold]Electra1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seymour Clearly[/bold] wrote: When the senior members of our council decided to hire a barrister to protect their interests,,cost was not a consideration.Howeve r ,the same criteria is not used to protect the vulnerable in our society. I haven't any idea what a refurbishment would cost,but even if it was £3 million,we would have a suitable premises to house a lot more than ten residents and at a more cost effective value. Furthermore,If the private sector can make a profit,by charging pcc for providing this service,why can't our council save that profit by undertaking the service in house. In the last few years several million pounds has been spent on building the carbuncle in Prendergast,known as the Archive Centre, and also the former Tax office, which is having money thrown at it on a refurbishment. It would be interesting to know how much the Chief executives office suite cost to furnish.[/p][/quote]Nice name, Seymour Clearly :)[/p][/quote]Electra 1. It was either Seymour Clearly or I.P.freely Seymour Clearly
  • Score: 0

9:07pm Wed 12 Mar 14

Harrygrayballs says...

Couldn't £3 million build a brand new residential care home???
Couldn't £3 million build a brand new residential care home??? Harrygrayballs
  • Score: 2

9:24am Thu 13 Mar 14

Indeview J Hudson says...

Malcolm, officers of the Council submitted a £150,000,000 bid for the 21st century Schools programme which required a 50/50 contribution of £75,000,000 from us.
Councillors did not know about this until the bid was approved, incidentally the largest allocation across all council's.
From memory, the Council's starter contribution was kick started by a transfer of reserves earmarked from other " normal" services, under officer's delegated powers.
Yet again our councillors have been led by their noses to defend officers decisions.
There is a 21st Century Management Board , Cllr Adams, Cllr Rowlands and Cllr Pat Davies with 9 officers. This Board reports to the Cabinet.

The council's contribution was said to peak in 2017/18.
Does anyone know what the effect of this will be on the provision of statutory continuing front line services, particularly in times of uncertain financial restrictions.

Will this require additional contributions from the rates, or perhaps increased borrowing with the possibility of increased borrowing rates?

Our councillors are not allowed any meaningful roles in the operation of this council.
Malcolm, officers of the Council submitted a £150,000,000 bid for the 21st century Schools programme which required a 50/50 contribution of £75,000,000 from us. Councillors did not know about this until the bid was approved, incidentally the largest allocation across all council's. From memory, the Council's starter contribution was kick started by a transfer of reserves earmarked from other " normal" services, under officer's delegated powers. Yet again our councillors have been led by their noses to defend officers decisions. There is a 21st Century Management Board , Cllr Adams, Cllr Rowlands and Cllr Pat Davies with 9 officers. This Board reports to the Cabinet. The council's contribution was said to peak in 2017/18. Does anyone know what the effect of this will be on the provision of statutory continuing front line services, particularly in times of uncertain financial restrictions. Will this require additional contributions from the rates, or perhaps increased borrowing with the possibility of increased borrowing rates? Our councillors are not allowed any meaningful roles in the operation of this council. Indeview J Hudson
  • Score: 1

11:25am Fri 14 Mar 14

seaveiw says...

Indeview J Hudson wrote:
Malcolm, officers of the Council submitted a £150,000,000 bid for the 21st century Schools programme which required a 50/50 contribution of £75,000,000 from us.
Councillors did not know about this until the bid was approved, incidentally the largest allocation across all council's.
From memory, the Council's starter contribution was kick started by a transfer of reserves earmarked from other " normal" services, under officer's delegated powers.
Yet again our councillors have been led by their noses to defend officers decisions.
There is a 21st Century Management Board , Cllr Adams, Cllr Rowlands and Cllr Pat Davies with 9 officers. This Board reports to the Cabinet.

The council's contribution was said to peak in 2017/18.
Does anyone know what the effect of this will be on the provision of statutory continuing front line services, particularly in times of uncertain financial restrictions.

Will this require additional contributions from the rates, or perhaps increased borrowing with the possibility of increased borrowing rates?

Our councillors are not allowed any meaningful roles in the operation of this council.
So the saga continues come on Welsh Assembly time now to intervene, this council should adhere to rules of government This particular decision should have been discussed at full council it is a large sum of money to be approved but there again this unruly mob will not be around roll on the new structure of local government
[quote][p][bold]Indeview J Hudson[/bold] wrote: Malcolm, officers of the Council submitted a £150,000,000 bid for the 21st century Schools programme which required a 50/50 contribution of £75,000,000 from us. Councillors did not know about this until the bid was approved, incidentally the largest allocation across all council's. From memory, the Council's starter contribution was kick started by a transfer of reserves earmarked from other " normal" services, under officer's delegated powers. Yet again our councillors have been led by their noses to defend officers decisions. There is a 21st Century Management Board , Cllr Adams, Cllr Rowlands and Cllr Pat Davies with 9 officers. This Board reports to the Cabinet. The council's contribution was said to peak in 2017/18. Does anyone know what the effect of this will be on the provision of statutory continuing front line services, particularly in times of uncertain financial restrictions. Will this require additional contributions from the rates, or perhaps increased borrowing with the possibility of increased borrowing rates? Our councillors are not allowed any meaningful roles in the operation of this council.[/p][/quote]So the saga continues come on Welsh Assembly time now to intervene, this council should adhere to rules of government This particular decision should have been discussed at full council it is a large sum of money to be approved but there again this unruly mob will not be around roll on the new structure of local government seaveiw
  • Score: 2

10:16am Sat 15 Mar 14

Dave Edwards says...

Today is Bryn Parry Jones' birthday. No doubt he can enjoy himself knowing his future is rosy, unlike the residents of Sunnybank.
Today is Bryn Parry Jones' birthday. No doubt he can enjoy himself knowing his future is rosy, unlike the residents of Sunnybank. Dave Edwards
  • Score: 2

5:37pm Sun 16 Mar 14

zappa5 says...

What would the point be in starting a Judicial Review?
PCC should of made a decision concerning Sunnybank 12 to 15 years ago before the deterioration of the building started, now they have made the only logical decision at this time. A JR would only drag the process out ending in the same result while causing extra misery to the residents - who would be moved on anyway - and an depressing and taxing time for the staff, who have always come at the bottom of the councils priorities. Apart from a waste of public money the only people to gain from a JR would be the over-paid solicitors who handle it.
PCC has already closed its homes in Haverfordwest, Pembroke and Crymmych and after Sunnybank Hillside in Goodwick will be the final one to go leaving it all to the private sector to rake in the cash.
What would the point be in starting a Judicial Review? PCC should of made a decision concerning Sunnybank 12 to 15 years ago before the deterioration of the building started, now they have made the only logical decision at this time. A JR would only drag the process out ending in the same result while causing extra misery to the residents - who would be moved on anyway - and an depressing and taxing time for the staff, who have always come at the bottom of the councils priorities. Apart from a waste of public money the only people to gain from a JR would be the over-paid solicitors who handle it. PCC has already closed its homes in Haverfordwest, Pembroke and Crymmych and after Sunnybank Hillside in Goodwick will be the final one to go leaving it all to the private sector to rake in the cash. zappa5
  • Score: 1

5:49pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Tttoommy says...

Dave Edwards wrote:
Today is Bryn Parry Jones' birthday. No doubt he can enjoy himself knowing his future is rosy, unlike the residents of Sunnybank.
He may be found guilty of wrong doing and lose his pension, he might land up in a place like this - I cannot imagine anyone cares for him
[quote][p][bold]Dave Edwards[/bold] wrote: Today is Bryn Parry Jones' birthday. No doubt he can enjoy himself knowing his future is rosy, unlike the residents of Sunnybank.[/p][/quote]He may be found guilty of wrong doing and lose his pension, he might land up in a place like this - I cannot imagine anyone cares for him Tttoommy
  • Score: 3

6:38pm Sun 16 Mar 14

Electra1 says...

Seymour Clearly wrote:
Electra1 wrote:
Seymour Clearly wrote:
When the senior members of our council decided to hire a barrister to protect their interests,,cost was not a consideration.Howeve



r ,the same criteria is not used to protect the vulnerable in our society.
I haven't any idea what a refurbishment would cost,but even if it was £3 million,we would have a suitable premises to house a lot more than ten residents and at a more cost effective value.
Furthermore,If the private sector can make a profit,by charging pcc for providing this service,why can't our council save that profit by undertaking the service in house.
In the last few years several million pounds has been spent on building the carbuncle in Prendergast,known as the Archive Centre, and also the former Tax office, which is having money thrown at it on a refurbishment.
It would be interesting to know how much the Chief executives office suite cost to furnish.
Nice name, Seymour Clearly :)
Electra 1.
It was either Seymour Clearly or I.P.freely
Seymour Clearly is more refined but I bet there are many gentlemen who wish the name I P Freely applied to them.
[quote][p][bold]Seymour Clearly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Electra1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seymour Clearly[/bold] wrote: When the senior members of our council decided to hire a barrister to protect their interests,,cost was not a consideration.Howeve r ,the same criteria is not used to protect the vulnerable in our society. I haven't any idea what a refurbishment would cost,but even if it was £3 million,we would have a suitable premises to house a lot more than ten residents and at a more cost effective value. Furthermore,If the private sector can make a profit,by charging pcc for providing this service,why can't our council save that profit by undertaking the service in house. In the last few years several million pounds has been spent on building the carbuncle in Prendergast,known as the Archive Centre, and also the former Tax office, which is having money thrown at it on a refurbishment. It would be interesting to know how much the Chief executives office suite cost to furnish.[/p][/quote]Nice name, Seymour Clearly :)[/p][/quote]Electra 1. It was either Seymour Clearly or I.P.freely[/p][/quote]Seymour Clearly is more refined but I bet there are many gentlemen who wish the name I P Freely applied to them. Electra1
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