Couple fined for cockerel crowing: 'We thought it was a joke!'

Western Telegraph: DISAPPOINTMENT: Andrew Baker with one of his four remaining Pekin cockerels. PICTURE: Martin Cavaney. DISAPPOINTMENT: Andrew Baker with one of his four remaining Pekin cockerels. PICTURE: Martin Cavaney.

THE owners of a small-holding near Haverfordwest have spoken out after being fined for allowing their cockerels and other fowl to break a noise abatement notice.

Andrew and Lynda Baker, of Wiltax Rose, were each fined £200 and ordered to pay costs of £597.79 and a £20 victim surcharge by Haverfordwest magistrates’ last Monday (April 14).

The couple were served a noise abatement notice by Pembrokeshire County Council last July after a neighbour complained of excessive cockerel crowing.

Andrew, 57, and Lynda, 56, who kept animals at their old town centre home in Newport, Gwent, without any problems, told the Western Telegraph of their disappointment.

They moved to Pembrokeshire 10-years ago, having always wanted to own a small-holding. At one point they kept about 200 animals, but they downsized considerably about six years ago after deciding it had "become more of a burden than a pleasure".

Andrew and Lynda said they could not believe what had happened.

“I thought it was a joke at first," said Andrew. "We are on a farm, we are surrounded by farmland. It’s the countryside."

“If we lived five miles up the road in Haverfordwest I could understand it but not round here.”

Linda added: “I just thought we were good friends. We’ve been round there for coffee and BBQs, we’ve never fallen out with them, I don’t know what happened.

“We’ve had enough stress without this. I’ve had enough, I keep saying I want to move.

“They didn’t even come round to speak to us about it. We don’t know what they will complain about next.”

She added: “I think it’s lovely to hear the cockerels. We live in a rural area, it’s just a way of life you know."

Last month the couple were ordered to pay a total of £1,700 in fines and costs for breaching a noise abatement notice by allowing their two dogs to persistently bark.

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9:48am Wed 23 Apr 14

Gogledd says...

We should ban cows from mooing and sheep from bleeting too, shouldnt we....then that would be fine....
We should ban cows from mooing and sheep from bleeting too, shouldnt we....then that would be fine.... Gogledd
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12:18pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Electra1 says...

Better you hear cockerels than yobs playing music loud and all the time.
Better you hear cockerels than yobs playing music loud and all the time. Electra1
  • Score: 26

3:57pm Wed 23 Apr 14

williamsmum says...

Shame on those who complained, they should be utterly ashamed of themselves.
We are after all a rural county.
I wonder whether those complaining would also dislike the firing we hear from Castlemartin ranges? It's a way of life - accept it.
Shame on those who complained, they should be utterly ashamed of themselves. We are after all a rural county. I wonder whether those complaining would also dislike the firing we hear from Castlemartin ranges? It's a way of life - accept it. williamsmum
  • Score: 27

5:33pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Tttoommy says...

Bloke complained to me that he has a neighbour, a retired magistrate who'se always calling the Police out, I'm guessing he's also a Freemason as that's how it works here in Pembrokeshire - the police respond to every phone call t with the utmost speed even when the complaint is regarding the guy starting his diesel car.

He tried talking it through with this troublesome neighbour but it got even worse - said that he knew an inspector very well, also friends in high places that could ensure that he could be thrown out of his home, the police officer would also sort him out - bet the Police officer IF he exists would be livid if he knew that his name was being used like that
Bloke complained to me that he has a neighbour, a retired magistrate who'se always calling the Police out, I'm guessing he's also a Freemason as that's how it works here in Pembrokeshire - the police respond to every phone call t with the utmost speed even when the complaint is regarding the guy starting his diesel car. He tried talking it through with this troublesome neighbour but it got even worse - said that he knew an inspector very well, also friends in high places that could ensure that he could be thrown out of his home, the police officer would also sort him out - bet the Police officer IF he exists would be livid if he knew that his name was being used like that Tttoommy
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9:45pm Wed 23 Apr 14

PembsResident says...

It's easy for people to make out it is petty to complain about this but when you are harassed by noise nuisance it really does start to ruin your life, it is incredibly stressful. Any kind of noise nuisance, be it dogs barking, music blaring, cockerals crowing, it is really irritating.
You expect some noise around your home but you don't expect your life to be blighted by it!!
It's easy for people to make out it is petty to complain about this but when you are harassed by noise nuisance it really does start to ruin your life, it is incredibly stressful. Any kind of noise nuisance, be it dogs barking, music blaring, cockerals crowing, it is really irritating. You expect some noise around your home but you don't expect your life to be blighted by it!! PembsResident
  • Score: -17

9:30am Thu 24 Apr 14

Tttoommy says...

PembsResident wrote:
It's easy for people to make out it is petty to complain about this but when you are harassed by noise nuisance it really does start to ruin your life, it is incredibly stressful. Any kind of noise nuisance, be it dogs barking, music blaring, cockerals crowing, it is really irritating.
You expect some noise around your home but you don't expect your life to be blighted by it!!
Some townies seem to think that the countryside is quiet and that it's for decoration BUT you'll find its another work place so stop complaining that farmers farm or birds make a noise.

I think it says something about the ppl involved in this case that the Council took things quite so far and the "Law" (not justice ) fined them SO MUCH :(((
[quote][p][bold]PembsResident[/bold] wrote: It's easy for people to make out it is petty to complain about this but when you are harassed by noise nuisance it really does start to ruin your life, it is incredibly stressful. Any kind of noise nuisance, be it dogs barking, music blaring, cockerals crowing, it is really irritating. You expect some noise around your home but you don't expect your life to be blighted by it!![/p][/quote]Some townies seem to think that the countryside is quiet and that it's for decoration BUT you'll find its another work place so stop complaining that farmers farm or birds make a noise. I think it says something about the ppl involved in this case that the Council took things quite so far and the "Law" (not justice ) fined them SO MUCH :((( Tttoommy
  • Score: 23

2:22pm Thu 24 Apr 14

PembsResident says...

Just to add, these people seem to be persistent in their noise nuisance with it being the second time in months that they have been taken to court with it.
I don't think anyone expects the countryside to be silent, of course you expect some amount of noise but continuous noise like dogs barking and cockerals crowing really grates on you. I lived next to a dog years ago which barked non stop from around 5am til midnight, it really wears you down and affects your whole life. A bit of common consideration should never go amiss wherever you live!
Just to add, these people seem to be persistent in their noise nuisance with it being the second time in months that they have been taken to court with it. I don't think anyone expects the countryside to be silent, of course you expect some amount of noise but continuous noise like dogs barking and cockerals crowing really grates on you. I lived next to a dog years ago which barked non stop from around 5am til midnight, it really wears you down and affects your whole life. A bit of common consideration should never go amiss wherever you live! PembsResident
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3:18pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Electra1 says...

PembsResident wrote:
Just to add, these people seem to be persistent in their noise nuisance with it being the second time in months that they have been taken to court with it.
I don't think anyone expects the countryside to be silent, of course you expect some amount of noise but continuous noise like dogs barking and cockerals crowing really grates on you. I lived next to a dog years ago which barked non stop from around 5am til midnight, it really wears you down and affects your whole life. A bit of common consideration should never go amiss wherever you live!
But you can tell a dog to be quiet but not a cockerel. I remember as a child listening to the cockerels in my village when they crowd early in the morning, I loved it.

We only had free range hens as we sold our eggs to the Egg Marketing Board so we never had cockerels.

Someone nearby where I live now has a cockerel and when I hear it it brings back good memories of my childhood.
[quote][p][bold]PembsResident[/bold] wrote: Just to add, these people seem to be persistent in their noise nuisance with it being the second time in months that they have been taken to court with it. I don't think anyone expects the countryside to be silent, of course you expect some amount of noise but continuous noise like dogs barking and cockerals crowing really grates on you. I lived next to a dog years ago which barked non stop from around 5am til midnight, it really wears you down and affects your whole life. A bit of common consideration should never go amiss wherever you live![/p][/quote]But you can tell a dog to be quiet but not a cockerel. I remember as a child listening to the cockerels in my village when they crowd early in the morning, I loved it. We only had free range hens as we sold our eggs to the Egg Marketing Board so we never had cockerels. Someone nearby where I live now has a cockerel and when I hear it it brings back good memories of my childhood. Electra1
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9:35am Fri 25 Apr 14

PembsResident says...

The only point I was trying to make was that it isn't petty to complain about noise nuisance.
I hope that none of you ever truly experience it as your views may differ somewhat if you do.
The only point I was trying to make was that it isn't petty to complain about noise nuisance. I hope that none of you ever truly experience it as your views may differ somewhat if you do. PembsResident
  • Score: 3

6:33am Sat 26 Apr 14

Welshman23 says...

The council seem to be able to pick on the small person but when some serious scandals happen in the Kremlin.
Pensions
Late Expenses
Changing Council meeting minutes.
All these are serious but we have selected a cockerel to pick on, shame on the person that complained go to Boots and buy ear plugs. The person who complained might be employed by the council that is the only way you get things done. The people who investigated this incident their time would be better spent sorting out serious problems.
I am surprised they didn't want the cockerel destroyed, keep on making a noise to start your day.
Rock on cockerel.
The council seem to be able to pick on the small person but when some serious scandals happen in the Kremlin. Pensions Late Expenses Changing Council meeting minutes. All these are serious but we have selected a cockerel to pick on, shame on the person that complained go to Boots and buy ear plugs. The person who complained might be employed by the council that is the only way you get things done. The people who investigated this incident their time would be better spent sorting out serious problems. I am surprised they didn't want the cockerel destroyed, keep on making a noise to start your day. Rock on cockerel. Welshman23
  • Score: 13

8:10am Sat 26 Apr 14

Electra1 says...

PembsResident wrote:
The only point I was trying to make was that it isn't petty to complain about noise nuisance.
I hope that none of you ever truly experience it as your views may differ somewhat if you do.
When you live in the country you hear country noises, when you live in a city you hear city noises (traffic).

My idea of noise nuisance is loud music late at night or all day, antisocial neighbours, someone who does DIY all hours of the day and night, someone who believes revving up the engine of his car first thing in the morning is okay. In other words things that humans who should know better do.
[quote][p][bold]PembsResident[/bold] wrote: The only point I was trying to make was that it isn't petty to complain about noise nuisance. I hope that none of you ever truly experience it as your views may differ somewhat if you do.[/p][/quote]When you live in the country you hear country noises, when you live in a city you hear city noises (traffic). My idea of noise nuisance is loud music late at night or all day, antisocial neighbours, someone who does DIY all hours of the day and night, someone who believes revving up the engine of his car first thing in the morning is okay. In other words things that humans who should know better do. Electra1
  • Score: 9

12:29am Tue 29 Apr 14

power71 says...

I have worked in a high noise level industry most of my life Power generation but always wore earplugs high noise levels can affect your health .
OK Dogs barking all the time / cockerels crowing all the time can be a pain .
I live in a village which is rural and have heard folks moan about crows and even the birds singing in the morning or whinge when some farmer spreads manure !or even complain about cows manure in road when a farmer moved cattle on it ? Sorry its part of rural life folks i like to hear chickens clucking / ducks quacking / geese honking etc grew up with it and well i think the fine was a bit heavy .
I have worked in a high noise level industry most of my life Power generation but always wore earplugs high noise levels can affect your health . OK Dogs barking all the time / cockerels crowing all the time can be a pain . I live in a village which is rural and have heard folks moan about crows and even the birds singing in the morning or whinge when some farmer spreads manure !or even complain about cows manure in road when a farmer moved cattle on it ? Sorry its part of rural life folks i like to hear chickens clucking / ducks quacking / geese honking etc grew up with it and well i think the fine was a bit heavy . power71
  • Score: 3

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