Alliance vows to 'fight for Pembrokeshire'

NEW GROUP: The Pembrokeshire Alliance Group – currently made up of Cllrs Peter Stock, Bob Kilmister and Jonathan Nutting. PICTURE: Western Telegraph.   (2773207)

NEW GROUP: The Pembrokeshire Alliance Group – currently made up of Cllrs Peter Stock, Bob Kilmister and Jonathan Nutting. PICTURE: Western Telegraph. (2773207)

First published in News

A NEW political party that vows to ‘put the people of Pembrokeshire first’ will soon be up and running, following its first meeting on Thursday (April 24).

Pembrokeshire Alliance (PA) – formed by county councillors Bob Kilmister, Peter Stock and Jonathon Nutting – is on a mission to ‘radically improve the way local politics is carried out’.

Around a dozen people attended the group’s inaugural meeting at Haverfordwest Rugby Club, keen to hear what it has to offer.

Group leader Cllr Kilmister said PA hopes to offer an honest an open alternative to the ruling Independent Plus Group (IPG), which currently holds more than half of the 60 seats at County Hall.

He added that – with enough local support – PA could offer voters a truly ‘independent’ alternative in the next local elections in 2017.

Modelled on a local political party formed by eight people in a pub in Herefordshire, the establishment of a group means in future county councillors will be able to run for election under the PA banner.

Cllr Kilmister said, in light of recent scandals such as council chief executive Bryn Parry-Jones’ pension payments being investigated by police, Pembrokeshire people wanted a party they could trust.

“We have to be positive, we have to have clear objectives, and we have to be honest,” he said.

He promised the new group would create policies ‘driven by local need’, and members would not be expected to toe the party line if they disagreed with a decision.

Having elected an executive committee from members of the public, the group’s focus is now to recruit more members and –crucially – potential county council candidates.

“I want to make sure there’s a PA candidate standing against every IPG candidate in the next election,” said Cllr Kilmister.

“If we don’t, we won’t bring about their demise.”

Cllr Stock said he believes PA to be the only chance left to “fight for Pembrokeshire”.

“We should be fighting tooth and nail on behalf of the hospital, for transportation, for our town centres – and not just for reform inside the council but also so services work better for our county.”

He said the first meeting had been a great success but added it was now up to the audience to go home and spread the word that a new party was looking out for the interests of Pembrokeshire people.

“From small acorns grow big oak trees,” he added.

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12:34pm Wed 30 Apr 14

JonnyBlueJeans says...

The sooner the Welsh assembly gets rid of PCC the better. We need these people forming a new party like we needed the gales this winter
The sooner the Welsh assembly gets rid of PCC the better. We need these people forming a new party like we needed the gales this winter JonnyBlueJeans
  • Score: -6

1:23pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Tttoommy says...

JonnyBlueJeans wrote:
The sooner the Welsh assembly gets rid of PCC the better. We need these people forming a new party like we needed the gales this winter
We need decent honest ppl who don't believe in public duty and not helping their friends with special allowances for shutting their eyes to misdeeds, for putting party before ppl, we need decency and honesty 'cos as sure as eggs is eggs there's a VERY nasty smell of something coming from the Kremlin on the Cleddau.
[quote][p][bold]JonnyBlueJeans[/bold] wrote: The sooner the Welsh assembly gets rid of PCC the better. We need these people forming a new party like we needed the gales this winter[/p][/quote]We need decent honest ppl who don't believe in public duty and not helping their friends with special allowances for shutting their eyes to misdeeds, for putting party before ppl, we need decency and honesty 'cos as sure as eggs is eggs there's a VERY nasty smell of something coming from the Kremlin on the Cleddau. Tttoommy
  • Score: 18

1:31pm Wed 30 Apr 14

PembrokeshireMan says...

No parties, no alliances, no groups.

We just need decent, honest, independent people who are willing to think and speak for themselves and work for the good of the community they serve.

Is that too much to ask?
No parties, no alliances, no groups. We just need decent, honest, independent people who are willing to think and speak for themselves and work for the good of the community they serve. Is that too much to ask? PembrokeshireMan
  • Score: 10

2:36pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Gogledd says...

Agree with you all but your wasting your time thinking that the Welsh Govt is going to sort it our...they aint interested!!
Agree with you all but your wasting your time thinking that the Welsh Govt is going to sort it our...they aint interested!! Gogledd
  • Score: 8

3:06pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Bilbo101 says...

JonnyBlueJeans wrote:
The sooner the Welsh assembly gets rid of PCC the better. We need these people forming a new party like we needed the gales this winter
Getting rid of PCC is the least favourable solution of all and would be a significant disadvantage to all Pembrokeshire people. It is not PCC that is the problem but the self-serving scratch-my-back independent group, it is these people who have consistently and miserably failed the people of Pembrokeshire to the point where people like JennyBlueJeans think that the answer lies in abolishing PCC and handing control over to the Welsh Assembly. Sorry Jenny but the Assembly cares even less of us than the Independent Group Councillors. The Assembly is doing a fine job of cocking up Wales and we don't need another bunch of self-serving incompetents.

I see the new Pembrokeshire Alliance as the last hope for Pembrokeshire. Peter Stock has always fought extremely hard for the people of Pembrokeshire and I admire his stance and action on forming this new group.

The answer to Pembrokeshires problems lie solely with it's leadership, once they have been removed we might just stand a chance at moving forward.
[quote][p][bold]JonnyBlueJeans[/bold] wrote: The sooner the Welsh assembly gets rid of PCC the better. We need these people forming a new party like we needed the gales this winter[/p][/quote]Getting rid of PCC is the least favourable solution of all and would be a significant disadvantage to all Pembrokeshire people. It is not PCC that is the problem but the self-serving scratch-my-back independent group, it is these people who have consistently and miserably failed the people of Pembrokeshire to the point where people like JennyBlueJeans think that the answer lies in abolishing PCC and handing control over to the Welsh Assembly. Sorry Jenny but the Assembly cares even less of us than the Independent Group Councillors. The Assembly is doing a fine job of cocking up Wales and we don't need another bunch of self-serving incompetents. I see the new Pembrokeshire Alliance as the last hope for Pembrokeshire. Peter Stock has always fought extremely hard for the people of Pembrokeshire and I admire his stance and action on forming this new group. The answer to Pembrokeshires problems lie solely with it's leadership, once they have been removed we might just stand a chance at moving forward. Bilbo101
  • Score: 13

4:29pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Shadowlands says...

I agree, we certainly need the people who represent Pembrokeshire constituencies to want to have a better Pembrokeshire and not a better bank balance for themselves or help their corrupt friends.
Those who think PCC will go should remember that there will always be Pembrokeshire representatives in whatever may replace it, therefore those who currently blindly follow the leader like sheep and never question anything are those who we DO NOT WANT in any future administration, of whatever set up.
I do not know if this new group are going to be the perfect solution, but they must be better than what we have now, so I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Also, I do not think we would benefit from national party politics because they would be following the dictates of Westminster or Cardiff, neither of which will help Pembrokeshire.
My main concern is; are the people of Pembrokeshire going to re-elect the current shambles we have in IPPG, because they "know them" or get in some fresh blood! Because we certainly need oust them before they get a chance of another 4 years of scandle and mis-management.
I agree, we certainly need the people who represent Pembrokeshire constituencies to want to have a better Pembrokeshire and not a better bank balance for themselves or help their corrupt friends. Those who think PCC will go should remember that there will always be Pembrokeshire representatives in whatever may replace it, therefore those who currently blindly follow the leader like sheep and never question anything are those who we DO NOT WANT in any future administration, of whatever set up. I do not know if this new group are going to be the perfect solution, but they must be better than what we have now, so I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Also, I do not think we would benefit from national party politics because they would be following the dictates of Westminster or Cardiff, neither of which will help Pembrokeshire. My main concern is; are the people of Pembrokeshire going to re-elect the current shambles we have in IPPG, because they "know them" or get in some fresh blood! Because we certainly need oust them before they get a chance of another 4 years of scandle and mis-management. Shadowlands
  • Score: 15

4:56pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Cymru bach says...

I am personally in favour of this group.

Whilst I agree that we should have independent minded people. You do need some sort of structure, manifesto and accountability.

This group has set out its principles and objectives, and in their meetings members can debate and change these or the direction in which they are headed. It wil also give the electorate a view as to what to expect from these Councillors and then if necessary hold them to account.

The idea that we can go back to the days of having 50 independent Councillors all with their own conflicting ideas are naive and long gone. Parties whether local or National or groups will try and get a ruling majority.

I think a party that fights for local needs and has local priorities and objectives is to be welcomed.
I am personally in favour of this group. Whilst I agree that we should have independent minded people. You do need some sort of structure, manifesto and accountability. This group has set out its principles and objectives, and in their meetings members can debate and change these or the direction in which they are headed. It wil also give the electorate a view as to what to expect from these Councillors and then if necessary hold them to account. The idea that we can go back to the days of having 50 independent Councillors all with their own conflicting ideas are naive and long gone. Parties whether local or National or groups will try and get a ruling majority. I think a party that fights for local needs and has local priorities and objectives is to be welcomed. Cymru bach
  • Score: 12

5:36pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Justiceforall says...

I love Pembrokeshire and welcome the Pembrokeshire Alliance, they will bring about change and clean up PCC by applying Honesty Accountability and Transparency in their quest of serving the people, and at the same time getting a good deal for Pembrokeshire council tax payers. Give them a chance, join them, it will make a difference.
I love Pembrokeshire and welcome the Pembrokeshire Alliance, they will bring about change and clean up PCC by applying Honesty Accountability and Transparency in their quest of serving the people, and at the same time getting a good deal for Pembrokeshire council tax payers. Give them a chance, join them, it will make a difference. Justiceforall
  • Score: 10

9:13pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Tttoommy says...

Grubby, greedy, self serving, opportunistic - sounds familiar ?

It's on the IPPG party membership cars :(
Grubby, greedy, self serving, opportunistic - sounds familiar ? It's on the IPPG party membership cars :( Tttoommy
  • Score: 2

12:51am Thu 1 May 14

Flashbang says...

Watch that your new party doesn't get hi-jacked by the same type of self serving opportunist parasites that are currently plundering the county. Make prospective candidates sign some sort of contract which allows you to get rid of them at the first sign of dipping their fingers in the till.
Watch that your new party doesn't get hi-jacked by the same type of self serving opportunist parasites that are currently plundering the county. Make prospective candidates sign some sort of contract which allows you to get rid of them at the first sign of dipping their fingers in the till. Flashbang
  • Score: 3

11:59am Thu 1 May 14

JonnyBlueJeans says...

Bilbo101 wrote:
JonnyBlueJeans wrote:
The sooner the Welsh assembly gets rid of PCC the better. We need these people forming a new party like we needed the gales this winter
Getting rid of PCC is the least favourable solution of all and would be a significant disadvantage to all Pembrokeshire people. It is not PCC that is the problem but the self-serving scratch-my-back independent group, it is these people who have consistently and miserably failed the people of Pembrokeshire to the point where people like JennyBlueJeans think that the answer lies in abolishing PCC and handing control over to the Welsh Assembly. Sorry Jenny but the Assembly cares even less of us than the Independent Group Councillors. The Assembly is doing a fine job of cocking up Wales and we don't need another bunch of self-serving incompetents.

I see the new Pembrokeshire Alliance as the last hope for Pembrokeshire. Peter Stock has always fought extremely hard for the people of Pembrokeshire and I admire his stance and action on forming this new group.

The answer to Pembrokeshires problems lie solely with it's leadership, once they have been removed we might just stand a chance at moving forward.
Why do you people keep addressing me as Jenny when it quite clearly Jonny? I suspect you have a political agenda and disagree with everything that isn't in it without reading the arguments through. Or perhaps you just can't read
[quote][p][bold]Bilbo101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JonnyBlueJeans[/bold] wrote: The sooner the Welsh assembly gets rid of PCC the better. We need these people forming a new party like we needed the gales this winter[/p][/quote]Getting rid of PCC is the least favourable solution of all and would be a significant disadvantage to all Pembrokeshire people. It is not PCC that is the problem but the self-serving scratch-my-back independent group, it is these people who have consistently and miserably failed the people of Pembrokeshire to the point where people like JennyBlueJeans think that the answer lies in abolishing PCC and handing control over to the Welsh Assembly. Sorry Jenny but the Assembly cares even less of us than the Independent Group Councillors. The Assembly is doing a fine job of cocking up Wales and we don't need another bunch of self-serving incompetents. I see the new Pembrokeshire Alliance as the last hope for Pembrokeshire. Peter Stock has always fought extremely hard for the people of Pembrokeshire and I admire his stance and action on forming this new group. The answer to Pembrokeshires problems lie solely with it's leadership, once they have been removed we might just stand a chance at moving forward.[/p][/quote]Why do you people keep addressing me as Jenny when it quite clearly Jonny? I suspect you have a political agenda and disagree with everything that isn't in it without reading the arguments through. Or perhaps you just can't read JonnyBlueJeans
  • Score: -3

9:55pm Sun 4 May 14

lyndon666 says...

Little Englanders. Bring back Dyfed, scrap the colonial counties.
Little Englanders. Bring back Dyfed, scrap the colonial counties. lyndon666
  • Score: -4

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