UPDATED: Police to take no action over payments to senior Pembrokeshire County Council officers

Western Telegraph: Bryn Parry-Jones Bryn Parry-Jones

Police are to take no action over controversial payments made to senior officers at Pembrokeshire and Carmarthenshire County Councils, it has just been announced.

Pembrokeshire county council chief exec Bryn-Parry Jones and another unnamed officer received thousands of pounds in payments in lieu of the employers' pension contributions in a scheme that the Wales Audit Office described as 'unlawful'.

A similar scheme was set up in Carmarthenshire.

But today (Tuesday), a spokesman for Dyfed-Powys Police, said: “On 30th January 2014, three Public Interest Reports were published by the Wales Audit Office into matters relating to Carmarthenshire and Pembrokeshire County Councils.

"Following this, Dyfed Powys Police decided that the matters should be investigated ‘in the public interest’ to ascertain whether or not any criminal offences had taken place.

"Due to the close working relationships and partnership arrangements that exist between Dyfed-Powys Police and both local authorities, it was not appropriate for the Force to carry out the enquiry. As such, the matter was referred to Gloucestershire Constabulary who agreed to undertake the investigation.

"Gloucester Constabulary have now completed their enquiries and have confirmed that following an objective and independent analysis of the evidence, they did not find any evidence to suggest that any criminal offences had taken place. On the basis of this, the police will be taking no further action in relation to these matters.

"Both local authorities have been advised of this decision.”

Pembrokeshire County Council has already voted to rescind the opt-out scheme and last week members voted to invite Mr Parry-Jones and the other officer to return the money paid to them under the scheme.

Pembrokeshire council leader Jamie Adams, said:  “I have always maintained that though the decision in question may have been procedurally flawed, no individual had used their influence improperly.

"I am pleased that the police have reached a similar conclusion and have decided that there is no basis to investigate this matter.”
He went on to say: “Though the Council voted to rescind the original decision earlier this year, I remain of the view that there was nothing inherently ‘unlawful’ about the arrangement that was in place. Indeed, identical arrangements are in place in other public bodies across the UK.”

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2:59pm Tue 6 May 14

Electra1 says...

It makes no difference to our lot, many of them didn't think he had done anything wrong anyway.
It makes no difference to our lot, many of them didn't think he had done anything wrong anyway. Electra1
  • Score: 11

3:35pm Tue 6 May 14

Rockface says...

In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...? Rockface
  • Score: 24

3:41pm Tue 6 May 14

Electra1 says...

Rockface wrote:
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
Stop voting for the brown nosers.
[quote][p][bold]Rockface[/bold] wrote: In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?[/p][/quote]Stop voting for the brown nosers. Electra1
  • Score: 9

3:47pm Tue 6 May 14

Justiceforall says...

If what he and is group have done is not illegal, then it is a legalised rip off of the council tax payers of Pembrokeshire. What else has been ripped off, surely council workers and ex employees have evidence of any criminal activity over the past decade, such as council workers working on councillor and officers properties, if this true. The dig should start and lets clean up the Wild West..
If what he and is group have done is not illegal, then it is a legalised rip off of the council tax payers of Pembrokeshire. What else has been ripped off, surely council workers and ex employees have evidence of any criminal activity over the past decade, such as council workers working on councillor and officers properties, if this true. The dig should start and lets clean up the Wild West.. Justiceforall
  • Score: 15

3:47pm Tue 6 May 14

Bilbo101 says...

Rockface wrote:
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
Hi Rockface, I am far from a fan of BPJ but you need to be a bit careful in what you write as you could end up in some hot water. The amount was not £56K as that payment was split between two people and technically he stole nothing but received a payment "in good faith" that was later deemed unlawful, so under the eyes of the law he has actually done nothing wrong. We all know he and his councillor fan base are a bunch of right wnkrs, but we have to be careful not to let our anger get the better of us and write stuff that might be technically libellous.

What he actually did was enter into a scheme to avoid paying so much tax and whilst this to many is morally wrong, unfortunately in this instance it is not illegal.

I sympathise with you all. We are all getting screwed over and have been for quite some considerable time and unfortunately there does not appear to be anything we can do about it. We might as well be living in Russia.
[quote][p][bold]Rockface[/bold] wrote: In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?[/p][/quote]Hi Rockface, I am far from a fan of BPJ but you need to be a bit careful in what you write as you could end up in some hot water. The amount was not £56K as that payment was split between two people and technically he stole nothing but received a payment "in good faith" that was later deemed unlawful, so under the eyes of the law he has actually done nothing wrong. We all know he and his councillor fan base are a bunch of right wnkrs, but we have to be careful not to let our anger get the better of us and write stuff that might be technically libellous. What he actually did was enter into a scheme to avoid paying so much tax and whilst this to many is morally wrong, unfortunately in this instance it is not illegal. I sympathise with you all. We are all getting screwed over and have been for quite some considerable time and unfortunately there does not appear to be anything we can do about it. We might as well be living in Russia. Bilbo101
  • Score: 28

4:01pm Tue 6 May 14

Dave Edwards says...

As Bilbo pointed out, BPJ did nothing illegal but merely accepted what was a good deal from his farming friends in the ruling clique.
The one question that remains, however, is "who put the three farmers (Davies, Adams and Allen Mirehouse) up to it in the first place?
As Bilbo pointed out, BPJ did nothing illegal but merely accepted what was a good deal from his farming friends in the ruling clique. The one question that remains, however, is "who put the three farmers (Davies, Adams and Allen Mirehouse) up to it in the first place? Dave Edwards
  • Score: 21

4:13pm Tue 6 May 14

Electra1 says...

And meanwhile PCC are putting the prices up of everything.
And meanwhile PCC are putting the prices up of everything. Electra1
  • Score: 13

5:15pm Tue 6 May 14

SM1968 says...

And que a suitably smug response from farmer Adams and co, god help us
And que a suitably smug response from farmer Adams and co, god help us SM1968
  • Score: 12

5:29pm Tue 6 May 14

chizy says...

Really? No action taken?
You don't say, did not see that coming.
Who foots the bill for this non event enquiry conducted by the Glos Constabulary.
The farming world must rue the day Jamie Adams opted for a career in local politics. Their loss eh?
You seriously could not make it up..................
...................
Really? No action taken? You don't say, did not see that coming. Who foots the bill for this non event enquiry conducted by the Glos Constabulary. The farming world must rue the day Jamie Adams opted for a career in local politics. Their loss eh? You seriously could not make it up.................. ................... chizy
  • Score: 10

5:37pm Tue 6 May 14

Rockface says...

Electra1 wrote:
Rockface wrote:
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
Stop voting for the brown nosers.
I don't!
[quote][p][bold]Electra1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rockface[/bold] wrote: In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?[/p][/quote]Stop voting for the brown nosers.[/p][/quote]I don't! Rockface
  • Score: 7

5:39pm Tue 6 May 14

Rockface says...

Electra1 wrote:
Rockface wrote:
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
Stop voting for the brown nosers.
I don't!
[quote][p][bold]Electra1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rockface[/bold] wrote: In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?[/p][/quote]Stop voting for the brown nosers.[/p][/quote]I don't! Rockface
  • Score: 5

5:47pm Tue 6 May 14

Rockface says...

Bilbo101 wrote:
Rockface wrote:
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
Hi Rockface, I am far from a fan of BPJ but you need to be a bit careful in what you write as you could end up in some hot water. The amount was not £56K as that payment was split between two people and technically he stole nothing but received a payment "in good faith" that was later deemed unlawful, so under the eyes of the law he has actually done nothing wrong. We all know he and his councillor fan base are a bunch of right wnkrs, but we have to be careful not to let our anger get the better of us and write stuff that might be technically libellous.

What he actually did was enter into a scheme to avoid paying so much tax and whilst this to many is morally wrong, unfortunately in this instance it is not illegal.

I sympathise with you all. We are all getting screwed over and have been for quite some considerable time and unfortunately there does not appear to be anything we can do about it. We might as well be living in Russia.
Predictive text is so annoying when you want to write something quickly. Apols to Bryn for getting my calculations wrong - I say this with teeth clenched!

Im not angry Bilbo... not in the slightest... just trying to work out why there is one rule for one and not for all. I can't accept this payment was in good faith as when my pay conditions are being discussed by Directors I am not allowed in the room and I am notified through procedures set by the organisation.

I just expect more from those leading this county and get frustrated at the incompetence that is taking place before our eyes. This is disempowering stuff!!!
[quote][p][bold]Bilbo101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rockface[/bold] wrote: In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?[/p][/quote]Hi Rockface, I am far from a fan of BPJ but you need to be a bit careful in what you write as you could end up in some hot water. The amount was not £56K as that payment was split between two people and technically he stole nothing but received a payment "in good faith" that was later deemed unlawful, so under the eyes of the law he has actually done nothing wrong. We all know he and his councillor fan base are a bunch of right wnkrs, but we have to be careful not to let our anger get the better of us and write stuff that might be technically libellous. What he actually did was enter into a scheme to avoid paying so much tax and whilst this to many is morally wrong, unfortunately in this instance it is not illegal. I sympathise with you all. We are all getting screwed over and have been for quite some considerable time and unfortunately there does not appear to be anything we can do about it. We might as well be living in Russia.[/p][/quote]Predictive text is so annoying when you want to write something quickly. Apols to Bryn for getting my calculations wrong - I say this with teeth clenched! Im not angry Bilbo... not in the slightest... just trying to work out why there is one rule for one and not for all. I can't accept this payment was in good faith as when my pay conditions are being discussed by Directors I am not allowed in the room and I am notified through procedures set by the organisation. I just expect more from those leading this county and get frustrated at the incompetence that is taking place before our eyes. This is disempowering stuff!!! Rockface
  • Score: 15

6:19pm Tue 6 May 14

Tttoommy says...

calm down dears, In this case bryn jones and the members of the coven were not corrupt BUT were greedy and incompetent.

I hope the Police are investigating the euro regeneration grants ?
calm down dears, In this case bryn jones and the members of the coven were not corrupt BUT were greedy and incompetent. I hope the Police are investigating the euro regeneration grants ? Tttoommy
  • Score: 17

7:13pm Tue 6 May 14

Gogledd says...

love u guys we all should meet up sometime :-0
love u guys we all should meet up sometime :-0 Gogledd
  • Score: 9

8:08pm Tue 6 May 14

mikeeee says...

if they didnt give BPJ a "payment" maybe we'd still have decent bin-bags
if they didnt give BPJ a "payment" maybe we'd still have decent bin-bags mikeeee
  • Score: 12

8:32pm Tue 6 May 14

Martin Lewis says...

Bilbo101 wrote:
Rockface wrote:
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
Hi Rockface, I am far from a fan of BPJ but you need to be a bit careful in what you write as you could end up in some hot water. The amount was not £56K as that payment was split between two people and technically he stole nothing but received a payment "in good faith" that was later deemed unlawful, so under the eyes of the law he has actually done nothing wrong. We all know he and his councillor fan base are a bunch of right wnkrs, but we have to be careful not to let our anger get the better of us and write stuff that might be technically libellous.

What he actually did was enter into a scheme to avoid paying so much tax and whilst this to many is morally wrong, unfortunately in this instance it is not illegal.

I sympathise with you all. We are all getting screwed over and have been for quite some considerable time and unfortunately there does not appear to be anything we can do about it. We might as well be living in Russia.
Let's not forget that he was present at the meeting during which this decision was made. Hardly a payment made in "good faith" by my definition.
[quote][p][bold]Bilbo101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rockface[/bold] wrote: In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?[/p][/quote]Hi Rockface, I am far from a fan of BPJ but you need to be a bit careful in what you write as you could end up in some hot water. The amount was not £56K as that payment was split between two people and technically he stole nothing but received a payment "in good faith" that was later deemed unlawful, so under the eyes of the law he has actually done nothing wrong. We all know he and his councillor fan base are a bunch of right wnkrs, but we have to be careful not to let our anger get the better of us and write stuff that might be technically libellous. What he actually did was enter into a scheme to avoid paying so much tax and whilst this to many is morally wrong, unfortunately in this instance it is not illegal. I sympathise with you all. We are all getting screwed over and have been for quite some considerable time and unfortunately there does not appear to be anything we can do about it. We might as well be living in Russia.[/p][/quote]Let's not forget that he was present at the meeting during which this decision was made. Hardly a payment made in "good faith" by my definition. Martin Lewis
  • Score: 14

9:23pm Tue 6 May 14

Welshman23 says...

Nod nod wink wink
Nod nod wink wink Welshman23
  • Score: 10

10:27pm Tue 6 May 14

seaveiw says...

Welshman23 wrote:
Nod nod wink wink
Legally right morally wrong.Do as I say not as I do.Roll on reorganisation remove this overpaid incompetent man,so many things need a good sort out in this council
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: Nod nod wink wink[/p][/quote]Legally right morally wrong.Do as I say not as I do.Roll on reorganisation remove this overpaid incompetent man,so many things need a good sort out in this council seaveiw
  • Score: 11

10:22am Wed 7 May 14

JonnyBlueJeans says...

Rockface wrote:
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
Stole?
[quote][p][bold]Rockface[/bold] wrote: In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?[/p][/quote]Stole? JonnyBlueJeans
  • Score: 0

1:25pm Wed 7 May 14

Rockface says...

JonnyBlueJeans wrote:
Rockface wrote:
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
Stole?
past tense of steal!
[quote][p][bold]JonnyBlueJeans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rockface[/bold] wrote: In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?[/p][/quote]Stole?[/p][/quote]past tense of steal! Rockface
  • Score: 4

1:57pm Wed 7 May 14

Martin Lewis says...

Bilbo101 wrote:
Rockface wrote:
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
Hi Rockface, I am far from a fan of BPJ but you need to be a bit careful in what you write as you could end up in some hot water. The amount was not £56K as that payment was split between two people and technically he stole nothing but received a payment "in good faith" that was later deemed unlawful, so under the eyes of the law he has actually done nothing wrong. We all know he and his councillor fan base are a bunch of right wnkrs, but we have to be careful not to let our anger get the better of us and write stuff that might be technically libellous.

What he actually did was enter into a scheme to avoid paying so much tax and whilst this to many is morally wrong, unfortunately in this instance it is not illegal.

I sympathise with you all. We are all getting screwed over and have been for quite some considerable time and unfortunately there does not appear to be anything we can do about it. We might as well be living in Russia.
The definition of "stolen" can be construed in many ways in modern English:

http://www.collinsdi
ctionary.com/diction
ary/english/stolen
[quote][p][bold]Bilbo101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rockface[/bold] wrote: In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?[/p][/quote]Hi Rockface, I am far from a fan of BPJ but you need to be a bit careful in what you write as you could end up in some hot water. The amount was not £56K as that payment was split between two people and technically he stole nothing but received a payment "in good faith" that was later deemed unlawful, so under the eyes of the law he has actually done nothing wrong. We all know he and his councillor fan base are a bunch of right wnkrs, but we have to be careful not to let our anger get the better of us and write stuff that might be technically libellous. What he actually did was enter into a scheme to avoid paying so much tax and whilst this to many is morally wrong, unfortunately in this instance it is not illegal. I sympathise with you all. We are all getting screwed over and have been for quite some considerable time and unfortunately there does not appear to be anything we can do about it. We might as well be living in Russia.[/p][/quote]The definition of "stolen" can be construed in many ways in modern English: http://www.collinsdi ctionary.com/diction ary/english/stolen Martin Lewis
  • Score: 4

2:38pm Wed 7 May 14

Flashbang says...

Gloucester Constabulary, you must have missed conspiracy to defraud in your investigation as BPJ was at the meeting to funnel the money to him. I can't believe Jamie would have been bright enough to come up with this by himself.
Gloucester Constabulary, you must have missed conspiracy to defraud in your investigation as BPJ was at the meeting to funnel the money to him. I can't believe Jamie would have been bright enough to come up with this by himself. Flashbang
  • Score: 9

2:51pm Wed 7 May 14

Bilbo101 says...

JonnyBlueJeans wrote:
Rockface wrote:
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
Stole?
What does it matter when everybody knows exactly what Rockface meant. It is not an English exam. Highlighting small errors in grammar and English language in online comments is petty and pointless if the meaning of the comment is clearly understood by everybody. Comments should stick to the article subject matter and not deviate for trivial purposes.

Flipping heck, it is starting to remind me of having my school homework marked. Unfortunately I always got a C for English and things have not improved over the years and I am not going to start worrying about it now ;-)
[quote][p][bold]JonnyBlueJeans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rockface[/bold] wrote: In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?[/p][/quote]Stole?[/p][/quote]What does it matter when everybody knows exactly what Rockface meant. It is not an English exam. Highlighting small errors in grammar and English language in online comments is petty and pointless if the meaning of the comment is clearly understood by everybody. Comments should stick to the article subject matter and not deviate for trivial purposes. Flipping heck, it is starting to remind me of having my school homework marked. Unfortunately I always got a C for English and things have not improved over the years and I am not going to start worrying about it now ;-) Bilbo101
  • Score: 3

3:14pm Wed 7 May 14

Electra1 says...

Johnny we know that Rockface didn't mean stole in its literal sense but acquired said money in a roundabout way.
Johnny we know that Rockface didn't mean stole in its literal sense but acquired said money in a roundabout way. Electra1
  • Score: 3

3:15pm Wed 7 May 14

Electra1 says...

Bilbo101 wrote:
JonnyBlueJeans wrote:
Rockface wrote:
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
Stole?
What does it matter when everybody knows exactly what Rockface meant. It is not an English exam. Highlighting small errors in grammar and English language in online comments is petty and pointless if the meaning of the comment is clearly understood by everybody. Comments should stick to the article subject matter and not deviate for trivial purposes.

Flipping heck, it is starting to remind me of having my school homework marked. Unfortunately I always got a C for English and things have not improved over the years and I am not going to start worrying about it now ;-)
Believe it or not I had a A.
[quote][p][bold]Bilbo101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JonnyBlueJeans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rockface[/bold] wrote: In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?[/p][/quote]Stole?[/p][/quote]What does it matter when everybody knows exactly what Rockface meant. It is not an English exam. Highlighting small errors in grammar and English language in online comments is petty and pointless if the meaning of the comment is clearly understood by everybody. Comments should stick to the article subject matter and not deviate for trivial purposes. Flipping heck, it is starting to remind me of having my school homework marked. Unfortunately I always got a C for English and things have not improved over the years and I am not going to start worrying about it now ;-)[/p][/quote]Believe it or not I had a A. Electra1
  • Score: 1

8:36am Thu 8 May 14

mdubber says...

Surely the issue is that the payments were wrong or in "error" and is Public Money. This should be pursued to recover as would be an under payment of Income Tax. I wonder what the position would be if someone under payed their Community Charge / Tax?
Surely the issue is that the payments were wrong or in "error" and is Public Money. This should be pursued to recover as would be an under payment of Income Tax. I wonder what the position would be if someone under payed their Community Charge / Tax? mdubber
  • Score: 6

11:58am Thu 8 May 14

Tttoommy says...

mdubber wrote:
Surely the issue is that the payments were wrong or in "error" and is Public Money. This should be pursued to recover as would be an under payment of Income Tax. I wonder what the position would be if someone under payed their Community Charge / Tax?
I think it's quite apparent that Bryn Jones' attitude is - how much can I get away with and how can I pull the wool over the eyes of the daft hambones who think they run my council - decency, justice or fair play doesn't enter the equation.
[quote][p][bold]mdubber[/bold] wrote: Surely the issue is that the payments were wrong or in "error" and is Public Money. This should be pursued to recover as would be an under payment of Income Tax. I wonder what the position would be if someone under payed their Community Charge / Tax?[/p][/quote]I think it's quite apparent that Bryn Jones' attitude is - how much can I get away with and how can I pull the wool over the eyes of the daft hambones who think they run my council - decency, justice or fair play doesn't enter the equation. Tttoommy
  • Score: 5

12:29pm Thu 8 May 14

hardcheese says...

Rockface wrote:
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
Bryn-Parry Jones is a nasty piece of work. I wouldn't thrust him as far as I could throw him. The time has come for him to go and the 30 councillors who worship him....
[quote][p][bold]Rockface[/bold] wrote: In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?[/p][/quote]Bryn-Parry Jones is a nasty piece of work. I wouldn't thrust him as far as I could throw him. The time has come for him to go and the 30 councillors who worship him.... hardcheese
  • Score: 5

2:19pm Thu 8 May 14

Martin Lewis says...

Electra1 wrote:
Johnny we know that Rockface didn't mean stole in its literal sense but acquired said money in a roundabout way.
Like this Electra?

http://www.collinsdi
ctionary.com/diction
ary/english/stolen
[quote][p][bold]Electra1[/bold] wrote: Johnny we know that Rockface didn't mean stole in its literal sense but acquired said money in a roundabout way.[/p][/quote]Like this Electra? http://www.collinsdi ctionary.com/diction ary/english/stolen Martin Lewis
  • Score: 0

2:42pm Thu 8 May 14

KeanJo says...

I haven't seen the webcast of today's meeting but I would be surprised if Jamie hadn't put his hand up and drawn a line under this .By the way if making the payment is unlawful and BPJ is innocent someone is guilty of unlawful disposal of public money .If BPJ won't cough up voluntarily then the Cabinet should pay.
I haven't seen the webcast of today's meeting but I would be surprised if Jamie hadn't put his hand up and drawn a line under this .By the way if making the payment is unlawful and BPJ is innocent someone is guilty of unlawful disposal of public money .If BPJ won't cough up voluntarily then the Cabinet should pay. KeanJo
  • Score: 4

8:36pm Thu 8 May 14

mikeeee says...

Electra1 wrote:
Bilbo101 wrote:
JonnyBlueJeans wrote:
Rockface wrote:
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
Stole?
What does it matter when everybody knows exactly what Rockface meant. It is not an English exam. Highlighting small errors in grammar and English language in online comments is petty and pointless if the meaning of the comment is clearly understood by everybody. Comments should stick to the article subject matter and not deviate for trivial purposes.

Flipping heck, it is starting to remind me of having my school homework marked. Unfortunately I always got a C for English and things have not improved over the years and I am not going to start worrying about it now ;-)
Believe it or not I had a A.
dont you mean "an" A :)
[quote][p][bold]Electra1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bilbo101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JonnyBlueJeans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rockface[/bold] wrote: In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?[/p][/quote]Stole?[/p][/quote]What does it matter when everybody knows exactly what Rockface meant. It is not an English exam. Highlighting small errors in grammar and English language in online comments is petty and pointless if the meaning of the comment is clearly understood by everybody. Comments should stick to the article subject matter and not deviate for trivial purposes. Flipping heck, it is starting to remind me of having my school homework marked. Unfortunately I always got a C for English and things have not improved over the years and I am not going to start worrying about it now ;-)[/p][/quote]Believe it or not I had a A.[/p][/quote]dont you mean "an" A :) mikeeee
  • Score: 3

6:32pm Fri 9 May 14

seaveiw says...

How can these people rest at night, more money for them means less for essential services. The latest charging a crazy price on wheels, cutting back home carers hours,closing elderly care homes.Hope they never need to use these facilities. Don't know if you other guys believe in karma lets hope it comes to them.
How can these people rest at night, more money for them means less for essential services. The latest charging a crazy price on wheels, cutting back home carers hours,closing elderly care homes.Hope they never need to use these facilities. Don't know if you other guys believe in karma lets hope it comes to them. seaveiw
  • Score: 4

6:25pm Sun 11 May 14

billbob says...

and bryns new council lease car is a black porsche panamera, which has frequently been seen in the valero car park and never at county hall
and bryns new council lease car is a black porsche panamera, which has frequently been seen in the valero car park and never at county hall billbob
  • Score: 4

8:58am Mon 12 May 14

Tttoommy says...

seaveiw wrote:
How can these people rest at night, more money for them means less for essential services. The latest charging a crazy price on wheels, cutting back home carers hours,closing elderly care homes.Hope they never need to use these facilities. Don't know if you other guys believe in karma lets hope it comes to them.
Sorry If I'm repeating myself - these ppl don't give a **** about anyone or anything except who will have the most toys when they get to Narberth Crem
[quote][p][bold]seaveiw[/bold] wrote: How can these people rest at night, more money for them means less for essential services. The latest charging a crazy price on wheels, cutting back home carers hours,closing elderly care homes.Hope they never need to use these facilities. Don't know if you other guys believe in karma lets hope it comes to them.[/p][/quote]Sorry If I'm repeating myself - these ppl don't give a **** about anyone or anything except who will have the most toys when they get to Narberth Crem Tttoommy
  • Score: 1

9:29am Mon 12 May 14

Bilbo101 says...

billbob wrote:
and bryns new council lease car is a black porsche panamera, which has frequently been seen in the valero car park and never at county hall
What is the significance of the Valero car park ? Has our multi-talented Bryn got himself a second job consulting in the petro-chemical industry ? or is that where one of the family works ? Just wondering why we are paying our little superstar £20,500 per year car allowance for the shiny-go-faster-brum
-brum to be spending so much time down at Valero.

I wonder what Bryn is going to do with next years £20,500 Car allowance + compulsory rise ? Maybe he will invest in a nice new shiny personalised number plate "Laugh 1ng".
[quote][p][bold]billbob[/bold] wrote: and bryns new council lease car is a black porsche panamera, which has frequently been seen in the valero car park and never at county hall[/p][/quote]What is the significance of the Valero car park ? Has our multi-talented Bryn got himself a second job consulting in the petro-chemical industry ? or is that where one of the family works ? Just wondering why we are paying our little superstar £20,500 per year car allowance for the shiny-go-faster-brum -brum to be spending so much time down at Valero. I wonder what Bryn is going to do with next years £20,500 Car allowance + compulsory rise ? Maybe he will invest in a nice new shiny personalised number plate "Laugh 1ng". Bilbo101
  • Score: 4

9:34am Mon 12 May 14

KeanJo says...

Any more suggestions for a BJP personalised car registration?
Any more suggestions for a BJP personalised car registration? KeanJo
  • Score: 3

2:07pm Mon 12 May 14

dave-javu says...

G1MEE on front and M0RE on rear !!!
G1MEE on front and M0RE on rear !!! dave-javu
  • Score: 4

6:40pm Mon 12 May 14

Rockface says...

mikeeee wrote:
Electra1 wrote:
Bilbo101 wrote:
JonnyBlueJeans wrote:
Rockface wrote:
In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?
Stole?
What does it matter when everybody knows exactly what Rockface meant. It is not an English exam. Highlighting small errors in grammar and English language in online comments is petty and pointless if the meaning of the comment is clearly understood by everybody. Comments should stick to the article subject matter and not deviate for trivial purposes.

Flipping heck, it is starting to remind me of having my school homework marked. Unfortunately I always got a C for English and things have not improved over the years and I am not going to start worrying about it now ;-)
Believe it or not I had a A.
dont you mean "an" A :)
http://www.thefreedi
ctionary.com/stole
[quote][p][bold]mikeeee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Electra1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bilbo101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JonnyBlueJeans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rockface[/bold] wrote: In contrast - a PCC worker stole £11,500 to aid in her comfort eating, was arrested and punished by the courts as well as ordered to pay back what she stole. Bryn stole £56k and was only invited to pay it back. He won't pay it back now there are no charges to answer. What does this say to the people of Pembrokeshire...?[/p][/quote]Stole?[/p][/quote]What does it matter when everybody knows exactly what Rockface meant. It is not an English exam. Highlighting small errors in grammar and English language in online comments is petty and pointless if the meaning of the comment is clearly understood by everybody. Comments should stick to the article subject matter and not deviate for trivial purposes. Flipping heck, it is starting to remind me of having my school homework marked. Unfortunately I always got a C for English and things have not improved over the years and I am not going to start worrying about it now ;-)[/p][/quote]Believe it or not I had a A.[/p][/quote]dont you mean "an" A :)[/p][/quote]http://www.thefreedi ctionary.com/stole Rockface
  • Score: 1

8:34pm Mon 12 May 14

KeanJo says...

dave-javu wrote:
G1MEE on front and M0RE on rear !!!
Played about with A55 for a while but settled for B16 PAY. Any more?
[quote][p][bold]dave-javu[/bold] wrote: G1MEE on front and M0RE on rear !!![/p][/quote]Played about with A55 for a while but settled for B16 PAY. Any more? KeanJo
  • Score: 3

8:38pm Mon 12 May 14

Tttoommy says...

KeanJo wrote:
Any more suggestions for a BJP personalised car registration?
FU2 (pembs)?
[quote][p][bold]KeanJo[/bold] wrote: Any more suggestions for a BJP personalised car registration?[/p][/quote]FU2 (pembs)? Tttoommy
  • Score: 3

12:41pm Tue 13 May 14

Rockface says...

TH3IF
TH3IF Rockface
  • Score: 0

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