Deputy leader survives no confidence motion

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THE deputy leader of Pembrokeshire County Council comfortably survived a vote of no confidence at full council today (Thursday).

In March Councillor Rob Lewis was suspended for two weeks after he breached the code of conduct by using authority computers for political campaigning in the last elections.

An Ombudsman report which went before the Standards Committee stated Cllr Lewis accepted he had used the council’s computer system inappropriately on 16 occasions.

Both Cllrs Mike Stoddart and David Bryan submitted separate motions of no confidence in the deputy leader.

Thirty-six members voted against the motion, with 13 in favour and three abstentions.

Cllr Stoddart questioned how Cllr Lewis could have told the Ombudsman’s investigator he had paid £90 to £100 to print election posters, while also submitting an expenses claim of £55.96. “Both statements cannot possibly be true,” he said.

Council leader Cllr Jamie Adams leapt to Cllr Lewis’ defence over the “misdemeanour”, and praised his work.

Cllr Simon Hancock said he did not approve of what Cllr Lewis had done but he would not support the motion.

He called on members to “build each other up” and look to the future.

“It’s just becoming ridiculous that as a council we are not dealing with the issues that matter, instead of coming back and back with the same notices of motion,” Cllr Sue Perkins added.

But other members disagreed.

Cllr Tessa Hodgson said: “This is about the integrity of a man who sits in cabinet and is the deputy leader of this council, something which is not to be taken lightly.”

Cllr Michael Williams said Cllr Lewis had brought the authority into “disrepute”, while Cllr David Lloyd said it was “profoundly” important to act with integrity.

Cllr Stoddart said he had never heard so many “weasel words” and added that while he did not expect to win the motion in the chamber, he expected to win the motion outside the chamber.

A vote was not taken on Cllr Jacob Williams’ call for members to “deplore” Cllr Lewis’ actions following legal advice from the monitoring officer.

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6:57pm Thu 8 May 14

chizy says...

Safe for now.

Pembrokeshire people have long memories.
Safe for now. Pembrokeshire people have long memories. chizy
  • Score: 7

7:01pm Thu 8 May 14

Dave Edwards says...

Logic was defeated again!
The arguement used by Adams, Hancock et al was that as the Standards Committee had docked him two weeks pay that is an end to it.
As was pointed out, the Committee did not Know that his election expenses claim was at odds with what he told the Ombudsman. Surely had they known this he would have been dealt with more severely.
However. there is always the IIPG block and the payroll vote to contend with,
Logic was defeated again! The arguement used by Adams, Hancock et al was that as the Standards Committee had docked him two weeks pay that is an end to it. As was pointed out, the Committee did not Know that his election expenses claim was at odds with what he told the Ombudsman. Surely had they known this he would have been dealt with more severely. However. there is always the IIPG block and the payroll vote to contend with, Dave Edwards
  • Score: 18

8:04pm Thu 8 May 14

Mike Stoddart says...

The facts are that Cllr Lewis told the Ombudsman that his election leaflets had been printed by Clive James - a council-employed printer who also runs his own private print business - at a cost of £90 -£100.
However, his election expense return, which is required by law, contains only a claim for paper and ink cartridges costing £55.95.
There is no sign of an invoice from Mr James for the £90 - £100 printing costs, though all expenditure in excess of £20 is required to be supported by an invoice.
The election return, signed by Cllr Lewis, contains the statement: "To the best of my knowledge and belief it is a complete and accurate return as required by law".
It doesn't need a professor of logic to work out that Cllr Lewis either lied to the Ombudsman, or lied on his election return.
Though even a professor of logic would be hard pressed to explain why less than 25% of the members of a democratically elected body in one of the world's oldest democracies thought the deputy leader's actions were wrong.
We can only hope that Chizy is right.
The facts are that Cllr Lewis told the Ombudsman that his election leaflets had been printed by Clive James - a council-employed printer who also runs his own private print business - at a cost of £90 -£100. However, his election expense return, which is required by law, contains only a claim for paper and ink cartridges costing £55.95. There is no sign of an invoice from Mr James for the £90 - £100 printing costs, though all expenditure in excess of £20 is required to be supported by an invoice. The election return, signed by Cllr Lewis, contains the statement: "To the best of my knowledge and belief it is a complete and accurate return as required by law". It doesn't need a professor of logic to work out that Cllr Lewis either lied to the Ombudsman, or lied on his election return. Though even a professor of logic would be hard pressed to explain why less than 25% of the members of a democratically elected body in one of the world's oldest democracies thought the deputy leader's actions were wrong. We can only hope that Chizy is right. Mike Stoddart
  • Score: 19

10:29pm Thu 8 May 14

Welshman23 says...

Same old shambolic outfit I listened to the web cast today some councillors say nothing are they dead. Have the balls to speak and have an opinion.
Same old shambolic outfit I listened to the web cast today some councillors say nothing are they dead. Have the balls to speak and have an opinion. Welshman23
  • Score: 11

6:42am Fri 9 May 14

SM1968 says...

Without doubt the most disgusting bunch of people god put on this earth, who the hell do these people think they are. And as for the leader I am at a loss to describe the incompetence of the man, with the exception of the few who speak out they all need to go, I struggle with how these amateurs think they are superior humans to the electorate , my god I think they even believe themselves that they are better than Westminster, its such a joke you cant help but take the ****
Without doubt the most disgusting bunch of people god put on this earth, who the hell do these people think they are. And as for the leader I am at a loss to describe the incompetence of the man, with the exception of the few who speak out they all need to go, I struggle with how these amateurs think they are superior humans to the electorate , my god I think they even believe themselves that they are better than Westminster, its such a joke you cant help but take the **** SM1968
  • Score: 8

7:01am Fri 9 May 14

Electra1 says...

Did actually expect anything different?
Did actually expect anything different? Electra1
  • Score: 7

7:43am Fri 9 May 14

Harrygrayballs says...

The"smirk" is catching.
The"smirk" is catching. Harrygrayballs
  • Score: 10

9:02am Fri 9 May 14

Gogledd says...

Its a very sad indication of the state of things in Government throughout Wales, England and in general all levels within the UK. Money talks. It always has and it always will. The more things change the more they remain the same. It has always been like this, little envelopes, private meetings, if anyone believes there is such a thing and democracy, dream on...there never has been and there never will be. Human nature is such that ambition and greed is the "god" of most people.
Its a very sad indication of the state of things in Government throughout Wales, England and in general all levels within the UK. Money talks. It always has and it always will. The more things change the more they remain the same. It has always been like this, little envelopes, private meetings, if anyone believes there is such a thing and democracy, dream on...there never has been and there never will be. Human nature is such that ambition and greed is the "god" of most people. Gogledd
  • Score: 7

9:20am Fri 9 May 14

Indeview J Hudson says...

During this debate there was no mention of the effect on the electorate. We are not a consideration The leaflets printed by the IPG made no mention that the candidates were being promoted by it , or that if elected they were likely, or bound, to join the IPG post election.
Can we trust ANY election leaflet in future, or candidate for that matter, even when they stand as a candidate on behalf of a recognised political Group.
What are we voting for?
We were mentioned in passing during the members expenses debate, when it was pointed out that late submission of claims, going back years could lead one to believe that they were not claiming expenses.
When considering the Civic allowances ( which includes the Chairing the Council meetings) there was no thought given to the fact that the Council only meets 5 or 6 times a year.
During this debate there was no mention of the effect on the electorate. We are not a consideration The leaflets printed by the IPG made no mention that the candidates were being promoted by it , or that if elected they were likely, or bound, to join the IPG post election. Can we trust ANY election leaflet in future, or candidate for that matter, even when they stand as a candidate on behalf of a recognised political Group. What are we voting for? We were mentioned in passing during the members expenses debate, when it was pointed out that late submission of claims, going back years could lead one to believe that they were not claiming expenses. When considering the Civic allowances ( which includes the Chairing the Council meetings) there was no thought given to the fact that the Council only meets 5 or 6 times a year. Indeview J Hudson
  • Score: 6

9:26am Fri 9 May 14

Tttoommy says...

Harrygrayballs wrote:
The"smirk" is catching.
It says - I'm considerably richer that you, it's coming out of your pocket and you can't touch me.

We have to believe in Karma - what goes around, comes around
[quote][p][bold]Harrygrayballs[/bold] wrote: The"smirk" is catching.[/p][/quote]It says - I'm considerably richer that you, it's coming out of your pocket and you can't touch me. We have to believe in Karma - what goes around, comes around Tttoommy
  • Score: 10

10:21am Fri 9 May 14

seaveiw says...

again what more can we expect of this corrupt lot, I am sickened they are making cut backs on essential services lets hope or perhaps hope they will need wheels on meals,or care in the future, but there again they will be able to pay through thier ill gotten gains.
again what more can we expect of this corrupt lot, I am sickened they are making cut backs on essential services lets hope or perhaps hope they will need wheels on meals,or care in the future, but there again they will be able to pay through thier ill gotten gains. seaveiw
  • Score: 6

5:29pm Fri 9 May 14

Tttoommy says...

Indeview J Hudson wrote:
During this debate there was no mention of the effect on the electorate. We are not a consideration The leaflets printed by the IPG made no mention that the candidates were being promoted by it , or that if elected they were likely, or bound, to join the IPG post election.
Can we trust ANY election leaflet in future, or candidate for that matter, even when they stand as a candidate on behalf of a recognised political Group.
What are we voting for?
We were mentioned in passing during the members expenses debate, when it was pointed out that late submission of claims, going back years could lead one to believe that they were not claiming expenses.
When considering the Civic allowances ( which includes the Chairing the Council meetings) there was no thought given to the fact that the Council only meets 5 or 6 times a year.
let's not fforget the standard of public servant that oversees the counting of the votes - all looks fine to me- was the quote I heard from Mr Mugabe
[quote][p][bold]Indeview J Hudson[/bold] wrote: During this debate there was no mention of the effect on the electorate. We are not a consideration The leaflets printed by the IPG made no mention that the candidates were being promoted by it , or that if elected they were likely, or bound, to join the IPG post election. Can we trust ANY election leaflet in future, or candidate for that matter, even when they stand as a candidate on behalf of a recognised political Group. What are we voting for? We were mentioned in passing during the members expenses debate, when it was pointed out that late submission of claims, going back years could lead one to believe that they were not claiming expenses. When considering the Civic allowances ( which includes the Chairing the Council meetings) there was no thought given to the fact that the Council only meets 5 or 6 times a year.[/p][/quote]let's not fforget the standard of public servant that oversees the counting of the votes - all looks fine to me- was the quote I heard from Mr Mugabe Tttoommy
  • Score: -3

5:33pm Fri 9 May 14

Electra1 says...

Electra1 wrote:
Did actually expect anything different?
Meant to say did we actually expect anything different?
[quote][p][bold]Electra1[/bold] wrote: Did actually expect anything different?[/p][/quote]Meant to say did we actually expect anything different? Electra1
  • Score: 1

9:21am Sat 10 May 14

Janet Batey says...

I sat in the public gallery for most of this meeting. My overwhelming feeling was that it should be compulsory for all councillors to have "Active Listening" training. Answers were often the result of the listener not actually understanding the point being made or the motion being proposed. A shocking indicator of the capability of our elected representatives.
To illustrate, few members appeared to understand that the issue relating to Rob Lewis had nothing to do with computer misuse, but was about honesty and integrity and fitness to serve in public office.
Sue Perkins may never have heard a negative comment about PCC from her constituents but I don't suppose she has ever heard a negative comment about her own behaviour either. Selective hearing or something more serious?
On May 5th the cost of meals on wheels, which I deliver to some of the most vulnerable people in my area, rose by more than 30%. On 8th May I sat in the gallery and watched as our elected representatives voted against any reduction in their remuneration!
We put them there. We can remove them.
I sat in the public gallery for most of this meeting. My overwhelming feeling was that it should be compulsory for all councillors to have "Active Listening" training. Answers were often the result of the listener not actually understanding the point being made or the motion being proposed. A shocking indicator of the capability of our elected representatives. To illustrate, few members appeared to understand that the issue relating to Rob Lewis had nothing to do with computer misuse, but was about honesty and integrity and fitness to serve in public office. Sue Perkins may never have heard a negative comment about PCC from her constituents but I don't suppose she has ever heard a negative comment about her own behaviour either. Selective hearing or something more serious? On May 5th the cost of meals on wheels, which I deliver to some of the most vulnerable people in my area, rose by more than 30%. On 8th May I sat in the gallery and watched as our elected representatives voted against any reduction in their remuneration! We put them there. We can remove them. Janet Batey
  • Score: 6

9:23am Sat 10 May 14

Tttoommy says...

Dave Edwards wrote:
Logic was defeated again!
The arguement used by Adams, Hancock et al was that as the Standards Committee had docked him two weeks pay that is an end to it.
As was pointed out, the Committee did not Know that his election expenses claim was at odds with what he told the Ombudsman. Surely had they known this he would have been dealt with more severely.
However. there is always the IIPG block and the payroll vote to contend with,
his exps at odds with what he said you say?

In anyone's books that makes a liar surely?
[quote][p][bold]Dave Edwards[/bold] wrote: Logic was defeated again! The arguement used by Adams, Hancock et al was that as the Standards Committee had docked him two weeks pay that is an end to it. As was pointed out, the Committee did not Know that his election expenses claim was at odds with what he told the Ombudsman. Surely had they known this he would have been dealt with more severely. However. there is always the IIPG block and the payroll vote to contend with,[/p][/quote]his exps at odds with what he said you say? In anyone's books that makes a liar surely? Tttoommy
  • Score: 1

7:18pm Sat 10 May 14

Welshman23 says...

The person who altered the minutes at PCC has been identified on the front page of the Pembrokeshire Herald. Well done Herald, WT beaten again for the things that are topical in Pembrokeshire.
In my business if you alter or you manipulate company documentation this is deemed as gross misconduct and in the worst case dismissal, in local authority the punishment is a written warning according to the article in the Pembrokeshire Herald.
Who is the person who benefited with BPJ on the pension fiasco.
The person who altered the minutes at PCC has been identified on the front page of the Pembrokeshire Herald. Well done Herald, WT beaten again for the things that are topical in Pembrokeshire. In my business if you alter or you manipulate company documentation this is deemed as gross misconduct and in the worst case dismissal, in local authority the punishment is a written warning according to the article in the Pembrokeshire Herald. Who is the person who benefited with BPJ on the pension fiasco. Welshman23
  • Score: 4

9:18am Mon 12 May 14

Tttoommy says...

Welshman23 wrote:
The person who altered the minutes at PCC has been identified on the front page of the Pembrokeshire Herald. Well done Herald, WT beaten again for the things that are topical in Pembrokeshire.
In my business if you alter or you manipulate company documentation this is deemed as gross misconduct and in the worst case dismissal, in local authority the punishment is a written warning according to the article in the Pembrokeshire Herald.
Who is the person who benefited with BPJ on the pension fiasco.
I think we have to admit that the WT web site is where the obstropulous kids are allowed to vent their anger impotently. Any comment deemed too "interesting" gets taken down, any interesting stories will not be reported unless it's too evident they're censored as the BBC and S4C are reporting on them,sadly there's many reasons why the Kremlin on the Cleddau is so called - the KGB could take lessons from the press office :(
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: The person who altered the minutes at PCC has been identified on the front page of the Pembrokeshire Herald. Well done Herald, WT beaten again for the things that are topical in Pembrokeshire. In my business if you alter or you manipulate company documentation this is deemed as gross misconduct and in the worst case dismissal, in local authority the punishment is a written warning according to the article in the Pembrokeshire Herald. Who is the person who benefited with BPJ on the pension fiasco.[/p][/quote]I think we have to admit that the WT web site is where the obstropulous kids are allowed to vent their anger impotently. Any comment deemed too "interesting" gets taken down, any interesting stories will not be reported unless it's too evident they're censored as the BBC and S4C are reporting on them,sadly there's many reasons why the Kremlin on the Cleddau is so called - the KGB could take lessons from the press office :( Tttoommy
  • Score: 0

9:21am Mon 12 May 14

Electra1 says...

Tttoommy wrote:
Welshman23 wrote:
The person who altered the minutes at PCC has been identified on the front page of the Pembrokeshire Herald. Well done Herald, WT beaten again for the things that are topical in Pembrokeshire.
In my business if you alter or you manipulate company documentation this is deemed as gross misconduct and in the worst case dismissal, in local authority the punishment is a written warning according to the article in the Pembrokeshire Herald.
Who is the person who benefited with BPJ on the pension fiasco.
I think we have to admit that the WT web site is where the obstropulous kids are allowed to vent their anger impotently. Any comment deemed too "interesting" gets taken down, any interesting stories will not be reported unless it's too evident they're censored as the BBC and S4C are reporting on them,sadly there's many reasons why the Kremlin on the Cleddau is so called - the KGB could take lessons from the press office :(
Have they ever heard of the word impartiality?
[quote][p][bold]Tttoommy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: The person who altered the minutes at PCC has been identified on the front page of the Pembrokeshire Herald. Well done Herald, WT beaten again for the things that are topical in Pembrokeshire. In my business if you alter or you manipulate company documentation this is deemed as gross misconduct and in the worst case dismissal, in local authority the punishment is a written warning according to the article in the Pembrokeshire Herald. Who is the person who benefited with BPJ on the pension fiasco.[/p][/quote]I think we have to admit that the WT web site is where the obstropulous kids are allowed to vent their anger impotently. Any comment deemed too "interesting" gets taken down, any interesting stories will not be reported unless it's too evident they're censored as the BBC and S4C are reporting on them,sadly there's many reasons why the Kremlin on the Cleddau is so called - the KGB could take lessons from the press office :([/p][/quote]Have they ever heard of the word impartiality? Electra1
  • Score: 3

9:39pm Mon 12 May 14

seaveiw says...

Electra1 wrote:
Tttoommy wrote:
Welshman23 wrote:
The person who altered the minutes at PCC has been identified on the front page of the Pembrokeshire Herald. Well done Herald, WT beaten again for the things that are topical in Pembrokeshire.
In my business if you alter or you manipulate company documentation this is deemed as gross misconduct and in the worst case dismissal, in local authority the punishment is a written warning according to the article in the Pembrokeshire Herald.
Who is the person who benefited with BPJ on the pension fiasco.
I think we have to admit that the WT web site is where the obstropulous kids are allowed to vent their anger impotently. Any comment deemed too "interesting" gets taken down, any interesting stories will not be reported unless it's too evident they're censored as the BBC and S4C are reporting on them,sadly there's many reasons why the Kremlin on the Cleddau is so called - the KGB could take lessons from the press office :(
Have they ever heard of the word impartiality?
Today nurses have been arrested for tampering with documents what is the difference between them and this man they all are public servants!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Electra1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tttoommy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: The person who altered the minutes at PCC has been identified on the front page of the Pembrokeshire Herald. Well done Herald, WT beaten again for the things that are topical in Pembrokeshire. In my business if you alter or you manipulate company documentation this is deemed as gross misconduct and in the worst case dismissal, in local authority the punishment is a written warning according to the article in the Pembrokeshire Herald. Who is the person who benefited with BPJ on the pension fiasco.[/p][/quote]I think we have to admit that the WT web site is where the obstropulous kids are allowed to vent their anger impotently. Any comment deemed too "interesting" gets taken down, any interesting stories will not be reported unless it's too evident they're censored as the BBC and S4C are reporting on them,sadly there's many reasons why the Kremlin on the Cleddau is so called - the KGB could take lessons from the press office :([/p][/quote]Have they ever heard of the word impartiality?[/p][/quote]Today nurses have been arrested for tampering with documents what is the difference between them and this man they all are public servants!!!!! seaveiw
  • Score: 0

10:44pm Mon 12 May 14

Tttoommy says...

seaveiw wrote:
Electra1 wrote:
Tttoommy wrote:
Welshman23 wrote:
The person who altered the minutes at PCC has been identified on the front page of the Pembrokeshire Herald. Well done Herald, WT beaten again for the things that are topical in Pembrokeshire.
In my business if you alter or you manipulate company documentation this is deemed as gross misconduct and in the worst case dismissal, in local authority the punishment is a written warning according to the article in the Pembrokeshire Herald.
Who is the person who benefited with BPJ on the pension fiasco.
I think we have to admit that the WT web site is where the obstropulous kids are allowed to vent their anger impotently. Any comment deemed too "interesting" gets taken down, any interesting stories will not be reported unless it's too evident they're censored as the BBC and S4C are reporting on them,sadly there's many reasons why the Kremlin on the Cleddau is so called - the KGB could take lessons from the press office :(
Have they ever heard of the word impartiality?
Today nurses have been arrested for tampering with documents what is the difference between them and this man they all are public servants!!!!!
Bryn knows the law, he knows how to sail close to the wind and manouver the greedy stupid ppl at the top of the IPPG,whatever happens he's "Probably" OK ,, the oiks at tghe bottom of the IPPG are scared and know the members might have to pay loads of money PERSONALLY If they suddenly become honest - they cannot afford honesty as they cannot afford to flee the country

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Westminster
_cemeteries_scandal
[quote][p][bold]seaveiw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Electra1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tttoommy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: The person who altered the minutes at PCC has been identified on the front page of the Pembrokeshire Herald. Well done Herald, WT beaten again for the things that are topical in Pembrokeshire. In my business if you alter or you manipulate company documentation this is deemed as gross misconduct and in the worst case dismissal, in local authority the punishment is a written warning according to the article in the Pembrokeshire Herald. Who is the person who benefited with BPJ on the pension fiasco.[/p][/quote]I think we have to admit that the WT web site is where the obstropulous kids are allowed to vent their anger impotently. Any comment deemed too "interesting" gets taken down, any interesting stories will not be reported unless it's too evident they're censored as the BBC and S4C are reporting on them,sadly there's many reasons why the Kremlin on the Cleddau is so called - the KGB could take lessons from the press office :([/p][/quote]Have they ever heard of the word impartiality?[/p][/quote]Today nurses have been arrested for tampering with documents what is the difference between them and this man they all are public servants!!!!![/p][/quote]Bryn knows the law, he knows how to sail close to the wind and manouver the greedy stupid ppl at the top of the IPPG,whatever happens he's "Probably" OK ,, the oiks at tghe bottom of the IPPG are scared and know the members might have to pay loads of money PERSONALLY If they suddenly become honest - they cannot afford honesty as they cannot afford to flee the country http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Westminster _cemeteries_scandal Tttoommy
  • Score: -1

10:44pm Mon 12 May 14

Tttoommy says...

seaveiw wrote:
Electra1 wrote:
Tttoommy wrote:
Welshman23 wrote:
The person who altered the minutes at PCC has been identified on the front page of the Pembrokeshire Herald. Well done Herald, WT beaten again for the things that are topical in Pembrokeshire.
In my business if you alter or you manipulate company documentation this is deemed as gross misconduct and in the worst case dismissal, in local authority the punishment is a written warning according to the article in the Pembrokeshire Herald.
Who is the person who benefited with BPJ on the pension fiasco.
I think we have to admit that the WT web site is where the obstropulous kids are allowed to vent their anger impotently. Any comment deemed too "interesting" gets taken down, any interesting stories will not be reported unless it's too evident they're censored as the BBC and S4C are reporting on them,sadly there's many reasons why the Kremlin on the Cleddau is so called - the KGB could take lessons from the press office :(
Have they ever heard of the word impartiality?
Today nurses have been arrested for tampering with documents what is the difference between them and this man they all are public servants!!!!!
Bryn knows the law, he knows how to sail close to the wind and manouver the greedy stupid ppl at the top of the IPPG,whatever happens he's "Probably" OK ,, the oiks at tghe bottom of the IPPG are scared and know the members might have to pay loads of money PERSONALLY If they suddenly become honest - they cannot afford honesty as they cannot afford to flee the country

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Westminster
_cemeteries_scandal
[quote][p][bold]seaveiw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Electra1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tttoommy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: The person who altered the minutes at PCC has been identified on the front page of the Pembrokeshire Herald. Well done Herald, WT beaten again for the things that are topical in Pembrokeshire. In my business if you alter or you manipulate company documentation this is deemed as gross misconduct and in the worst case dismissal, in local authority the punishment is a written warning according to the article in the Pembrokeshire Herald. Who is the person who benefited with BPJ on the pension fiasco.[/p][/quote]I think we have to admit that the WT web site is where the obstropulous kids are allowed to vent their anger impotently. Any comment deemed too "interesting" gets taken down, any interesting stories will not be reported unless it's too evident they're censored as the BBC and S4C are reporting on them,sadly there's many reasons why the Kremlin on the Cleddau is so called - the KGB could take lessons from the press office :([/p][/quote]Have they ever heard of the word impartiality?[/p][/quote]Today nurses have been arrested for tampering with documents what is the difference between them and this man they all are public servants!!!!![/p][/quote]Bryn knows the law, he knows how to sail close to the wind and manouver the greedy stupid ppl at the top of the IPPG,whatever happens he's "Probably" OK ,, the oiks at tghe bottom of the IPPG are scared and know the members might have to pay loads of money PERSONALLY If they suddenly become honest - they cannot afford honesty as they cannot afford to flee the country http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Westminster _cemeteries_scandal Tttoommy
  • Score: -4

7:13am Tue 13 May 14

Electra1 says...

Tttoommy wrote:
seaveiw wrote:
Electra1 wrote:
Tttoommy wrote:
Welshman23 wrote:
The person who altered the minutes at PCC has been identified on the front page of the Pembrokeshire Herald. Well done Herald, WT beaten again for the things that are topical in Pembrokeshire.
In my business if you alter or you manipulate company documentation this is deemed as gross misconduct and in the worst case dismissal, in local authority the punishment is a written warning according to the article in the Pembrokeshire Herald.
Who is the person who benefited with BPJ on the pension fiasco.
I think we have to admit that the WT web site is where the obstropulous kids are allowed to vent their anger impotently. Any comment deemed too "interesting" gets taken down, any interesting stories will not be reported unless it's too evident they're censored as the BBC and S4C are reporting on them,sadly there's many reasons why the Kremlin on the Cleddau is so called - the KGB could take lessons from the press office :(
Have they ever heard of the word impartiality?
Today nurses have been arrested for tampering with documents what is the difference between them and this man they all are public servants!!!!!
Bryn knows the law, he knows how to sail close to the wind and manouver the greedy stupid ppl at the top of the IPPG,whatever happens he's "Probably" OK ,, the oiks at tghe bottom of the IPPG are scared and know the members might have to pay loads of money PERSONALLY If they suddenly become honest - they cannot afford honesty as they cannot afford to flee the country

http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/Westminster

_cemeteries_scandal
What was BPJ last job?
[quote][p][bold]Tttoommy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]seaveiw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Electra1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tttoommy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: The person who altered the minutes at PCC has been identified on the front page of the Pembrokeshire Herald. Well done Herald, WT beaten again for the things that are topical in Pembrokeshire. In my business if you alter or you manipulate company documentation this is deemed as gross misconduct and in the worst case dismissal, in local authority the punishment is a written warning according to the article in the Pembrokeshire Herald. Who is the person who benefited with BPJ on the pension fiasco.[/p][/quote]I think we have to admit that the WT web site is where the obstropulous kids are allowed to vent their anger impotently. Any comment deemed too "interesting" gets taken down, any interesting stories will not be reported unless it's too evident they're censored as the BBC and S4C are reporting on them,sadly there's many reasons why the Kremlin on the Cleddau is so called - the KGB could take lessons from the press office :([/p][/quote]Have they ever heard of the word impartiality?[/p][/quote]Today nurses have been arrested for tampering with documents what is the difference between them and this man they all are public servants!!!!![/p][/quote]Bryn knows the law, he knows how to sail close to the wind and manouver the greedy stupid ppl at the top of the IPPG,whatever happens he's "Probably" OK ,, the oiks at tghe bottom of the IPPG are scared and know the members might have to pay loads of money PERSONALLY If they suddenly become honest - they cannot afford honesty as they cannot afford to flee the country http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Westminster _cemeteries_scandal[/p][/quote]What was BPJ last job? Electra1
  • Score: -2

6:12pm Tue 13 May 14

Indeview J Hudson says...

The Monitoring Officer has responsibility for advising the Council on Code of Conduct (Members) probity, ethical governance and Ombudsman complaints.
In reaching decisions, Councillors have to have regard for his advice.
The Monitoring Officer has responsibility for advising the Council on Code of Conduct (Members) probity, ethical governance and Ombudsman complaints. In reaching decisions, Councillors have to have regard for his advice. Indeview J Hudson
  • Score: -2

10:30pm Tue 13 May 14

Tttoommy says...

Indeview J Hudson wrote:
The Monitoring Officer has responsibility for advising the Council on Code of Conduct (Members) probity, ethical governance and Ombudsman complaints.
In reaching decisions, Councillors have to have regard for his advice.
love the fact that some little corrupt s**t is reading these comments and voting the law of the Land down - It really shows what these ppl think of the law in pursuit of the money - see you in Jail :)
[quote][p][bold]Indeview J Hudson[/bold] wrote: The Monitoring Officer has responsibility for advising the Council on Code of Conduct (Members) probity, ethical governance and Ombudsman complaints. In reaching decisions, Councillors have to have regard for his advice.[/p][/quote]love the fact that some little corrupt s**t is reading these comments and voting the law of the Land down - It really shows what these ppl think of the law in pursuit of the money - see you in Jail :) Tttoommy
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8:17am Wed 14 May 14

Electra1 says...

Is someone altering 'our scores'? There seems to be a lot of minuses.
Is someone altering 'our scores'? There seems to be a lot of minuses. Electra1
  • Score: 2

10:43am Wed 14 May 14

Indeview J Hudson says...

As for Council Minutes, I guess these scores cannot be relied on.
As for Council Minutes, I guess these scores cannot be relied on. Indeview J Hudson
  • Score: -1

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