Councillors vote against lower pay level for council chairman and deputy

COUNTY councillors have chosen to pay the council chairman and vice-chairman £4,500 more than they could have done during 2014/15.

The Independent Remuneration Panel for Wales set three levels of pay for civic and deputy civic leaders but the council has the discretion to choose which level it opts for.

Pembrokeshire County Council director of finance and leisure Mark Lewis had recommended that the chairman and vice chairman’s civic salaries be set at £21,500 and £16,000 respectively for 2014/15. Last year's pay was set at £21,375 and £16,625 respectively.

But at full council last Thursday (May 8), Labour council leader Cllr Paul Miller proposed adopting the lowest option which would have seen the council chairman paid £19,000 and the vice chairman paid £14,000.

“Given the times we are living in and the budget pressures on this authority I think we should go for the cheapest option,” Cllr Miller said. The proposal was seconded by Cllr Tony Wilcox.

Council leader Cllr Jamie Adams said the decision to opt for the middle level was based on Pembrokeshire being a medium-sized authority.

Cllr Miller’s proposal was voted down by 35 votes to 17 with one abstention.

The 2014/15 chairman Cllr Thomas Richards abstained from voting but incoming deputy chairman Cllr Wynne Evans voted against adopting the lower pay.

It was also decided that co-opted members will be paid for a maximum of 10 full days for each committee.

After the meeting Cllr Miller said: “Last week Cllr Adams told us that the budget was on a knife-edge but apparently we can afford an extra £4,500 every year for two councillors pay, despite being unable to afford weekly bin collections, being unable to afford to webcast all council meetings and even being unable to afford to insist that every one of this county’s carers is paid a living wage.

“The Independent Political Group, working together with the Tories, showed exactly where their priorities are on Thursday. The priority is just as it always has been – to look after themselves and their own.”

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5:24pm Fri 16 May 14

Electra1 says...

Not forgetting the increase in library charges and the commission for exhibiting paintings, council tax.
Not forgetting the increase in library charges and the commission for exhibiting paintings, council tax. Electra1
  • Score: 8

6:16pm Fri 16 May 14

chizy says...

Personally I think the only difference between the Conservatives and the IPPG is literally the name. They both hold the utmost contempt for the local electorate,promote and live by double standards and many,many more.
Feel free to add any other 'qualities'.
Personally I think the only difference between the Conservatives and the IPPG is literally the name. They both hold the utmost contempt for the local electorate,promote and live by double standards and many,many more. Feel free to add any other 'qualities'. chizy
  • Score: 6

7:05pm Fri 16 May 14

Tttoommy says...

another kick in the teeth for the voters and ppl of Pembs by Bryn Jones and his IPG cronies
another kick in the teeth for the voters and ppl of Pembs by Bryn Jones and his IPG cronies Tttoommy
  • Score: 9

10:30pm Fri 16 May 14

Welshman23 says...

How dare the councillors vote this increase through they should all face the people who elected them and face the wrath.
How dare the councillors vote this increase through they should all face the people who elected them and face the wrath. Welshman23
  • Score: 7

11:51am Sat 17 May 14

Flashbang says...

Why do PCC stories keep getting booted off the web page by trivial stories, is the fix in? They seem to be only there for 5 minutes before they are sidelined. The spotlight must be kept on these thieving parasites and all their doings exposed.
Why do PCC stories keep getting booted off the web page by trivial stories, is the fix in? They seem to be only there for 5 minutes before they are sidelined. The spotlight must be kept on these thieving parasites and all their doings exposed. Flashbang
  • Score: 4

12:09pm Sat 17 May 14

Welshman23 says...

Nod nod wink let's upset Pembrokeshire people by bulldozing un popular policies. These people think we are stupid dream on councillors.
Nod nod wink let's upset Pembrokeshire people by bulldozing un popular policies. These people think we are stupid dream on councillors. Welshman23
  • Score: 5

3:02pm Sat 17 May 14

chizy says...

Welshman23 wrote:
Nod nod wink let's upset Pembrokeshire people by bulldozing un popular policies. These people think we are stupid dream on councillors.
One of the traits of delusion is believing others are stupid.
Still, reality is waiting come election time. That will be the opportunity to really see who's who.
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: Nod nod wink let's upset Pembrokeshire people by bulldozing un popular policies. These people think we are stupid dream on councillors.[/p][/quote]One of the traits of delusion is believing others are stupid. Still, reality is waiting come election time. That will be the opportunity to really see who's who. chizy
  • Score: 5

8:35pm Mon 19 May 14

Bilbo101 says...

Welshman23 wrote:
How dare the councillors vote this increase through they should all face the people who elected them and face the wrath.
In addition, it must be hard for council employees to swallow this news when so many of them have in recent times been regraded down and seen a reduction in income, whilst others have been made redundant.

Also I don't see that it was appropriate for the new chairman, Tom Richards to be in the chamber when the vote on his remuneration was taking place. I am sure that his presence would have had an impact on the way some councillors voted.

We are meant to all be in this together, but it seems that only Joe Average must burden the cuts, whilst the boys club in PCC seem to think that they are immune.

Did you know that Bryn Parry-Jones is going to get another £20,500+ car allowance this year when he has only just recently bought himself an £89,000 Porsche with the previous years money, so why does he need more money this year ??? Is he going to save it up and buy himself a Ferrari next time ? These monkeys are creaming it at our expense and with our council tax money. They are making cuts right left and centre but you don't see them making cuts to their allowance but increasing them instead. Where are the morals and integrity of these people ???
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: How dare the councillors vote this increase through they should all face the people who elected them and face the wrath.[/p][/quote]In addition, it must be hard for council employees to swallow this news when so many of them have in recent times been regraded down and seen a reduction in income, whilst others have been made redundant. Also I don't see that it was appropriate for the new chairman, Tom Richards to be in the chamber when the vote on his remuneration was taking place. I am sure that his presence would have had an impact on the way some councillors voted. We are meant to all be in this together, but it seems that only Joe Average must burden the cuts, whilst the boys club in PCC seem to think that they are immune. Did you know that Bryn Parry-Jones is going to get another £20,500+ car allowance this year when he has only just recently bought himself an £89,000 Porsche with the previous years money, so why does he need more money this year ??? Is he going to save it up and buy himself a Ferrari next time ? These monkeys are creaming it at our expense and with our council tax money. They are making cuts right left and centre but you don't see them making cuts to their allowance but increasing them instead. Where are the morals and integrity of these people ??? Bilbo101
  • Score: 4

8:56am Tue 20 May 14

Indeview J Hudson says...

At yesterday's Cabinet meeting, 2014/15 fees the Council pays private residential and nursing homes for placements was agreed.
No mention of finance in the report or consideration of any financial implications at the meeting.
Minor simple issues, like how much was provided in the 2014/15 budget; how much would the agreed increase in the allowable inflation rate cost; could this be met from within the approved budget, if so how?: If not, what other services would be affected to meet the additional cost.
The adult service budget is already in deficit to the unquantified extent that the £800,000 "cost reduction" due from the approved increased fees for home care has been delayed.

I expect that Cabinet do not concern themselves with finance, content to leave such "process" details to officers to sort out under their extensive delegated powers, regardless of any service delivery implications. I would have hoped that Cabinet would at least want to be made aware of potential problems, but clearly not.
At yesterday's Cabinet meeting, 2014/15 fees the Council pays private residential and nursing homes for placements was agreed. No mention of finance in the report or consideration of any financial implications at the meeting. Minor simple issues, like how much was provided in the 2014/15 budget; how much would the agreed increase in the allowable inflation rate cost; could this be met from within the approved budget, if so how?: If not, what other services would be affected to meet the additional cost. The adult service budget is already in deficit to the unquantified extent that the £800,000 "cost reduction" due from the approved increased fees for home care has been delayed. I expect that Cabinet do not concern themselves with finance, content to leave such "process" details to officers to sort out under their extensive delegated powers, regardless of any service delivery implications. I would have hoped that Cabinet would at least want to be made aware of potential problems, but clearly not. Indeview J Hudson
  • Score: 3

9:05am Tue 20 May 14

Flashbang says...

Can these parasites be sued for plundering the Pembrokeshire treasury to line their own pockets? They clearly have no interest in the welfare of the county and increasing their take while everything is in a deficit crisis is clearly criminal.
Can these parasites be sued for plundering the Pembrokeshire treasury to line their own pockets? They clearly have no interest in the welfare of the county and increasing their take while everything is in a deficit crisis is clearly criminal. Flashbang
  • Score: 2

11:59am Thu 22 May 14

seaveiw says...

they did vote to cut the workers pay and hours,and everything else they could cut. I WONDER has any one worked out how much it costs pro rata of this sparcely populated Pembrokeshire does it cost I MEAN INCLUDING all the councils local,town, county, and the national park. Are all these areas of administration needed, I don't think so. Remove some of them or all of them and think again. We have an Assembly who seem to make a lot of the major decisions, GIVE THE MONEY BACK TO US. The population of Wales is about the same as say Birmingahm and yet our local chief gets more salary.All of this shambolic council should be receiving a cut in pay
they did vote to cut the workers pay and hours,and everything else they could cut. I WONDER has any one worked out how much it costs pro rata of this sparcely populated Pembrokeshire does it cost I MEAN INCLUDING all the councils local,town, county, and the national park. Are all these areas of administration needed, I don't think so. Remove some of them or all of them and think again. We have an Assembly who seem to make a lot of the major decisions, GIVE THE MONEY BACK TO US. The population of Wales is about the same as say Birmingahm and yet our local chief gets more salary.All of this shambolic council should be receiving a cut in pay seaveiw
  • Score: 2

7:40am Fri 23 May 14

Welshman23 says...

Is Pembrokeshire ready for the UKIP revolution.
Is Pembrokeshire ready for the UKIP revolution. Welshman23
  • Score: 1

11:16am Fri 23 May 14

seaveiw says...

Welshman23 wrote:
Is Pembrokeshire ready for the UKIP revolution.
Maybe not so sure though, we are ready for a democratic election of the council though.
[quote][p][bold]Welshman23[/bold] wrote: Is Pembrokeshire ready for the UKIP revolution.[/p][/quote]Maybe not so sure though, we are ready for a democratic election of the council though. seaveiw
  • Score: 0

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