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EXCLUSIVE: Pembrokeshire County Council boss 'will not quit' over damning child safeguarding failures

Pembrokeshire County Council chief executive Bryn Parry-Jones has exclusively told the Western Telegraph he will not be resigning following the recent damning reports that have shaken the authority.

The county council’s top man very rarely gives interviews but the recent reports and the resulting fall-out has forced him into the public eye.

Mr Parry-Jones agreed to meet Western Telegraph reporter Katy Woodhouse last week.

The chief executive and leader John Davies had both given up leave commitments to deal with the serious issues highlighted in Estyn and CISSW’s report, they said.

When asked if his public appearance meant that the council is in crisis, Mr Parry-Jones said: “I don’t talk about crises because that’s inappropriate.

“There is enormous concern about a report which is so different to the reports we get from these bodies and other bodies that inspect us, including in the recent past, and we are taking it hugely seriously.

“I have dealt with nothing other than this to any substantial extent for the last seven or eight weeks. So in terms of giving an impression that we are taking this seriously I hope people will understand we are taking it most seriously.”

He also stated he would not consider resigning.

“Leadership is about taking responsibility and sorting things out – not walking away, and I take my responsibilities very seriously and I know the leader of the council takes his responsibilities very seriously as well, and we will ensure that the systems we have are even safer than they were before.”

He said a CSSIW report in 2009 found arrangements in safeguarding to be good and seen as a corporate priority.

“We all forget about things that are done but it’s not that long ago when positive things were being said about safeguarding arrangements.

“The local authority isn’t the leader, it isn’t the chief executive, the local authority is thousands of people. We have about 6,500 people working for the county council.

“Thousands of people have been working with us on safeguarding for many years and continue to do so,” he said.

“If there is an allegation of abuse, or a suspicion of abuse, it is handled by people who are experts, and they are experts in the first instance in talking to children, so we can ensure that the most vulnerable voice is heard.

“And I think in the scale of the activity, it shows we’re serious. As the leader has said just occasionally things come to light that none of us would like to have happen.

“We’ve had a number of cases, that all authorities have from time to time. Over the last four years, we’ve had 25 cases. I think it was acknowledged by the report that about half of those cases were not serious issues, the suspicion was there, the complaint was there and many of those, even when it turned out to be not a serious issue, went through a very intensive investigation process.

“It’s dreadful for those children involved in the cases, but it actually shows the system works, because if we’d had none at all, I would say the system didn’t work.

“Some of the cases, when they’ve been investigated, have not come to any serious conclusion, but some of them have, including one person going to jail.

“I think that shows we take it seriously. And I want people to be reassured that we take it seriously.”

Mr Parry-Jones has set up a chief officer’s safeguarding panel which includes all directors and corporate heads of service, which has already met, he said, and has all the appropriate paper work.

But he added what really matters is that people are trained and vetted effectively and when suspicions arise they must be properly dealt with by people who know what they are doing.

“The system can be improved, absolutely, all systems in all organisation can be improved.

“We’ve already started in a significant way tightening the processes that we have,” Mr Parry-Jones said.

Comments(14)

Sue T/K says...
5:05pm Thu 1 Sep 11

I would suggest Mr Parry-Jones that what really matters is that when suspicions arise and are officially reported to senior management, that a council does not close ranks and try to sweep things under the carpet to protect personal/organisatio
nal reputations. No amount of vetting will stop questionable behaviour whereas rapid, appropriate and open responses from those in a position of authority to any complaints might. Check your records - you sacked me for bringing several serious complaints to the council's attention in 2005. I knew that eventually it would all come back to haunt you and your colleagues.

hayleyswood says...
5:55pm Thu 1 Sep 11

So Mr Bryn Parry-Jones... you admit you 'have only dealt with nothing other than this to any substantial extent for the last seven or eight weeks...?' Pity on you, that you have not addressed this issue since you have been in post!

Flashbang says...
2:15am Fri 2 Sep 11

6,500 people seems to be a ridiculously excessive amount of staff for a County Council to have on it's payroll. Does that even include execs, consultants and other assorted hangers on? The ratepayers do not seem to be getting anywhere near their moneys worth.
The random key code to post came up as "nice-wage" Is there an irony chip in your computer?

neil p says...
8:54pm Fri 2 Sep 11

Stuart,
Superbly written, unfortunately I wonder how many people actually read this comments section, hopefully many more that actually comment!
If only the Western Telegraph had the mettle to put your well written section into Wednesday’s broadsheet.
As far as planning permission for Blue Stone goes, having chatted to a previous councillor on this mooted point, who was dead set against the planning permission, (Obviously not there now ) the PCC purportedly held voting essentially behind closed doors when the offending no voters were not present.

Tina2 says...
6:43am Sat 3 Sep 11

neil p wrote:
Stuart,
Superbly written, unfortunately I wonder how many people actually read this comments section, hopefully many more that actually comment!
If only the Western Telegraph had the mettle to put your well written section into Wednesday’s broadsheet.
As far as planning permission for Blue Stone goes, having chatted to a previous councillor on this mooted point, who was dead set against the planning permission, (Obviously not there now ) the PCC purportedly held voting essentially behind closed doors when the offending no voters were not present.
I would say something but the last time I said something negative about the WT lack of reporting on public bodies I had an email from them asking me if I could prove my statement.

(I still have those emails as well)

Hyper-injunctions says...
11:09am Sat 3 Sep 11

That's interesting Tina. I think that as long as no-one reads these comments the WT is happy for them to stay.
Tina's experience makes me think that the WT is the propaganda wing of PCC.

And I agree, Stuarts points were very well stated and should be picked up in the paper edition of WT. (if PCC say they can)

westernwelsh says...
2:37pm Sat 3 Sep 11

It is interesting that the chief executive officer seems to use all of the County Council's staff as a shield, to deflect or share blame for this mess.

But this is not a failure of over 6,000 staff, it is a failure of management and leadership in the upper echelons of Pembrokeshire County Council.

Surely it is not a question of "should he resign" but a question of "should he be suspended pending an investigation into the serious management failures which have occurred on his watch?".

There have been calls for an independent investigation into this matter and they seem to be the best way ahead.

mike260672 says...
4:21pm Sat 3 Sep 11

what a fine leader of the council he is,its not my fault,isnt the responsibility of the council his job and he's obviously failed.he should resign instead of being the spineless money grabbing toe-rag he is we pay his wages so i think the county should have a vote and let US decide if he should keep his job.

mike260672 says...
4:22pm Sat 3 Sep 11

what a fine leader of the council he is,its not my fault,isnt the responsibility of the council his job and he's obviously failed.he should resign instead of being the spineless money grabbing toe-rag he is we pay his wages so i think the county should have a vote and let US decide if he should keep his job.

Stuart Evans llansadwrn ( Caeo) says...
8:19am Sun 4 Sep 11

Poor Politics ( Morality) = Poor Economics ( Well-being).

westernwelsh says...
8:49am Sun 4 Sep 11

There was an interesting article in the Western Mail in April 2010 about the way Pembrokeshire County Council failed an at-risk child in 2005. The Ombudsman said;

“The failings, in particular, the council’s failure to act, amount to maladministration of a very serious kind and it is clear that A has suffered as a result of this."

There seems to be a pattern of failure which should worry all of us who pay our council taxes in this county. Where does the proverbial buck stop in Pembrokeshire I wonder?

TGLewis says...
3:02pm Sun 4 Sep 11

Flashbang wrote:
6,500 people seems to be a ridiculously excessive amount of staff for a County Council to have on it's payroll. Does that even include execs, consultants and other assorted hangers on? The ratepayers do not seem to be getting anywhere near their moneys worth.
The random key code to post came up as "nice-wage" Is there an irony chip in your computer?
You must bear in mind that the value stated includes all council services. Schools, carers, highway maintenance....the list goes on. When you add it all up, it's a feasible number.
There was an interesting programme on TV not long ago "The Street That Cut Everything". I suggest you take a look. The council withdrew all of their services for a week from a street, needless to say it fell into despair. What would you do with no access to education, libraries, rubbish collection, roads, information, clean streets?

I really think you need to reconsider how ignorant your comment was.

Stuart Evans llansadwrn ( Caeo) says...
7:21pm Sun 4 Sep 11

I am afraid to say Flashbang's response to westernwelsh is rather naive or possibly disingenuos since no one is discussing the scrapping of council services, but rather the ineptitude and corruption that persists within PCC. There are employees at PCC who work hard and remain honest - they too are not well served by the pernicious nature of the cabinet and the leadership of the Planning Department, the Education Department, the Care Department etc. ( too many to mention, unfortunately). The pro-active elements of PCC, by which I mean those who 'do' as opposed to those required to 'decide' are often over-looked. I wonder whether PCC employees are aware of the violations of their Equal Rights. Those employees who have been ignored, excluded, black-listed should now step forward and expose the various malparctise and maladministration they have witnessed over the years , usually with a sense of consternation and the 'sword of Diamocles' hovering above them regarding their own careers. The hour is near and I would urge those reticent to put themselves forward, to be reassured that they are not alone. WAG ministers have pinned their colours to this issue and with the ongoing police investigation barely started, these issue will not be brushed aside.

Flashbang says...
6:23am Mon 5 Sep 11

I posted my comment the day before westernwelsh. It was not a response.

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