Removal of full children’s service at Withybush delayed

Western Telegraph: Full paediatric care will remain until October at Withybush Full paediatric care will remain until October at Withybush

THE reduction of inpatient hospital care for children in Pembrokeshire will be delayed until October, the health board has confirmed.

The stalling of plans to move full, overnight paediatric services from Withybush Hospital comes following requests from senior children’s doctors who had objected to the proposals.

Questions had also been raised about the safety of A&E overnight without access to paediatric doctors.

The service had due to be moved to Glangwili hospital in Carmarthen in August when changes to neonatal, maternity and gynaecological services will also be made.

A Hywel Dda University Health Board spokesman said: “Changes to neonatal, maternity and gynaecology services in Pembrokeshire and Carmarthenshire are still on course to take place on 4 August 2014.

“Following requests from our senior children’s doctors and nurses we have agreed to postpone the changes to hospital based children’s services (paediatrics) until October 2014.

“This will provide us with additional time to recruit the new doctors and nurses needed to deliver the new services and to put the required policies and protocols in place.

“Paediatric services will be provided on a 24/7 basis at both Withybush and Glangwili Hospitals for this short time. Further information about the changes to paediatrics services now planned for October will be widely shared as soon as it is available.”

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9:52pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Delroy Thomas says...

One of the biggest energy ports in the UK nearby and you can't even have 24/7 hospital services. Quite shocking and regressive. It is part of the gradual decine of services in Pembrokeshire. I do hope the county council or the Assembly Government approve a road straigtening scheme. I certainly would not like to see anyone transported that far on such basic road infrastructure.

I am lucky enough to remember a time when we had local services. Lets just be honest and say its not ideal but we can't afford it. Is there anyone that believes that services and access to these services will improve for stakeholders? Even the bean counters have said it long enough to convice themselves. If you are a health service you need to be in a place where people can access your services. Well doe to the Doctors and Nurses for having the moral courage to speak out. If they had not said anything the inteligentsia may have tried to make the move as planned regardless of the clinical arguments.
One of the biggest energy ports in the UK nearby and you can't even have 24/7 hospital services. Quite shocking and regressive. It is part of the gradual decine of services in Pembrokeshire. I do hope the county council or the Assembly Government approve a road straigtening scheme. I certainly would not like to see anyone transported that far on such basic road infrastructure. I am lucky enough to remember a time when we had local services. Lets just be honest and say its not ideal but we can't afford it. Is there anyone that believes that services and access to these services will improve for stakeholders? Even the bean counters have said it long enough to convice themselves. If you are a health service you need to be in a place where people can access your services. Well doe to the Doctors and Nurses for having the moral courage to speak out. If they had not said anything the inteligentsia may have tried to make the move as planned regardless of the clinical arguments. Delroy Thomas
  • Score: 13

11:22pm Fri 4 Jul 14

Tttoommy says...

another local papers webiste which is not quite so scared about losing ad revenue had a story about kids from Carms. sent to Withybush as they could not cope with the current issues so quite understandable they've kept Withyb ush open - just shocked they give a toss about life and death as they 've ALWAYS only cared about hitting targerts and bonuses :(
another local papers webiste which is not quite so scared about losing ad revenue had a story about kids from Carms. sent to Withybush as they could not cope with the current issues so quite understandable they've kept Withyb ush open - just shocked they give a toss about life and death as they 've ALWAYS only cared about hitting targerts and bonuses :( Tttoommy
  • Score: 5

9:43am Sat 5 Jul 14

Gogledd says...

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The above is quite interesting and equally as worrying. People have told me that we have inadequate ambulance coverage. This I do not believe has been mentioned. I think its something stupid like 5 or 6 ambulances in the whole of our County. Doesnt take much imagination to work out what happens if there are a serious of injuries or emergencies that we havent got enough to cope does it.
http://www.carmarthe njournal.co.uk/asham ed-service-fed-silen t/story-21285965-det ail/story.html#dT2ry eYibyeWU2pQ.01 The above is quite interesting and equally as worrying. People have told me that we have inadequate ambulance coverage. This I do not believe has been mentioned. I think its something stupid like 5 or 6 ambulances in the whole of our County. Doesnt take much imagination to work out what happens if there are a serious of injuries or emergencies that we havent got enough to cope does it. Gogledd
  • Score: 2

1:40pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Tttoommy says...

Gogledd wrote:
http://www.carmarthe

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eYibyeWU2pQ.01

The above is quite interesting and equally as worrying. People have told me that we have inadequate ambulance coverage. This I do not believe has been mentioned. I think its something stupid like 5 or 6 ambulances in the whole of our County. Doesnt take much imagination to work out what happens if there are a serious of injuries or emergencies that we havent got enough to cope does it.
No great fan of Neil Kinnockbut I do remember a speech he made where he said something along the lines of do not fall ill, do not grow old -

His words really resonante don't they ?
[quote][p][bold]Gogledd[/bold] wrote: http://www.carmarthe njournal.co.uk/asham ed-service-fed-silen t/story-21285965-det ail/story.html#dT2ry eYibyeWU2pQ.01 The above is quite interesting and equally as worrying. People have told me that we have inadequate ambulance coverage. This I do not believe has been mentioned. I think its something stupid like 5 or 6 ambulances in the whole of our County. Doesnt take much imagination to work out what happens if there are a serious of injuries or emergencies that we havent got enough to cope does it.[/p][/quote]No great fan of Neil Kinnockbut I do remember a speech he made where he said something along the lines of do not fall ill, do not grow old - His words really resonante don't they ? Tttoommy
  • Score: 1

3:16pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Gogledd says...

Tttoommy wrote:
Gogledd wrote:
http://www.carmarthe


njournal.co.uk/asham


ed-service-fed-silen


t/story-21285965-det


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eYibyeWU2pQ.01

The above is quite interesting and equally as worrying. People have told me that we have inadequate ambulance coverage. This I do not believe has been mentioned. I think its something stupid like 5 or 6 ambulances in the whole of our County. Doesnt take much imagination to work out what happens if there are a serious of injuries or emergencies that we havent got enough to cope does it.
No great fan of Neil Kinnockbut I do remember a speech he made where he said something along the lines of do not fall ill, do not grow old -

His words really resonante don't they ?
I liked Neil Kinnock the news papers and media of the time made him look a fool and he was anything but that. Yes dont fall ill, dont go to hospital and dont grow old. Problem is that we all do and another issue is ageism in the NHS which is frightening. Young people today cannot grasp the situation and why should they Youth is oblivious to the problems of old age, it is something a long way away and that is the nature of things. I didnt consider it when I was a young thing but as I get older and I see Pembrokeshire people become more and more remote from essential services the message is getting home quickly!
[quote][p][bold]Tttoommy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gogledd[/bold] wrote: http://www.carmarthe njournal.co.uk/asham ed-service-fed-silen t/story-21285965-det ail/story.html#dT2ry eYibyeWU2pQ.01 The above is quite interesting and equally as worrying. People have told me that we have inadequate ambulance coverage. This I do not believe has been mentioned. I think its something stupid like 5 or 6 ambulances in the whole of our County. Doesnt take much imagination to work out what happens if there are a serious of injuries or emergencies that we havent got enough to cope does it.[/p][/quote]No great fan of Neil Kinnockbut I do remember a speech he made where he said something along the lines of do not fall ill, do not grow old - His words really resonante don't they ?[/p][/quote]I liked Neil Kinnock the news papers and media of the time made him look a fool and he was anything but that. Yes dont fall ill, dont go to hospital and dont grow old. Problem is that we all do and another issue is ageism in the NHS which is frightening. Young people today cannot grasp the situation and why should they Youth is oblivious to the problems of old age, it is something a long way away and that is the nature of things. I didnt consider it when I was a young thing but as I get older and I see Pembrokeshire people become more and more remote from essential services the message is getting home quickly! Gogledd
  • Score: 3

7:49am Fri 11 Jul 14

Indeview J Hudson says...

Gogledd's concern for the future of Pembrokeshire mirrors my own fears.
I suffer a moment of acute concern when direct routes to Carmarthen , and beyond were cut off.
I am pleased that the process of consultation was found to be lawful, but what about the outcome and the health needs, care and safety of patients and increased social care requirements of Pembrokeshire ( and Ceredigion) ?
How reassuring it is that the provision of services has been shaped by clinicians, concerned that they can ensure a level of throughput which maintains their level of competence in centres of specialism. At the same time community social support services provided by Council's are under financial pressures, and are told of, and already experience problems over GP's.

Have the practicalities, for patients and their families of living in rural areas "remote" from these centralised services been given enough weight by clinicians advising their Board's?

We will not all, fortunately, require specialist services but may need help to be provided by Voluntary Organisations formally provided by arrangement through the NHS, which can no longer cope.

What is the future for this County? Why on earth would young families want to come, or stay for that matter, in an area which is disadvantaged by distance?

The latent knock on effects of these decisions may not be apparent for years. Where has our political representation been hiding?
Gogledd's concern for the future of Pembrokeshire mirrors my own fears. I suffer a moment of acute concern when direct routes to Carmarthen , and beyond were cut off. I am pleased that the process of consultation was found to be lawful, but what about the outcome and the health needs, care and safety of patients and increased social care requirements of Pembrokeshire ( and Ceredigion) ? How reassuring it is that the provision of services has been shaped by clinicians, concerned that they can ensure a level of throughput which maintains their level of competence in centres of specialism. At the same time community social support services provided by Council's are under financial pressures, and are told of, and already experience problems over GP's. Have the practicalities, for patients and their families of living in rural areas "remote" from these centralised services been given enough weight by clinicians advising their Board's? We will not all, fortunately, require specialist services but may need help to be provided by Voluntary Organisations formally provided by arrangement through the NHS, which can no longer cope. What is the future for this County? Why on earth would young families want to come, or stay for that matter, in an area which is disadvantaged by distance? The latent knock on effects of these decisions may not be apparent for years. Where has our political representation been hiding? Indeview J Hudson
  • Score: 0
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