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3:45pm Thursday 1st March 2007
There was drama in County Hall this morning (Thursday) when Councillor Brian Hall walked out after resigning his Cabinet seat.
During a long speech which started with an apology, he said he would also retire from the Mid and West Wales Fire Authority when his term of office as chairman ends this year and decide later whether or not to remain a member of the County Council independent group.
He also announced that he was revoking his right to claim travelling expenses.
"I am a simple man and do my very best, but unfortunately, I also sometimes lose my cool and say things I regret. For that I want to apologise for what I may have said or done" he said.
So, was Cllr Hall right to step down? Have your say below.
Terry Gorton, pembroke dock says...
5:38pm Thu 1 Mar 07
Sandra the cleaner, County Hall says...
7:18pm Thu 1 Mar 07
Gill, Saundersfoot says...
7:22pm Thu 1 Mar 07
In Cyder, Haverfordwest says...
8:34pm Thu 1 Mar 07
Emma, Pembroke Dock says...
8:37pm Thu 1 Mar 07
Susan, says...
9:37pm Thu 1 Mar 07
Gill wrote:All I can say is I have yet to meet a single person who has anything good to say about Mr Hall and that was long before this fiasco. I have heard him described as a bully so many times by people who have known him for years.
What a shame, the ordinary people that Brian Hall has helped in the past don't have a voice unlike those with a political agenda and too much time on their hands. We need more councillors like Mr Hall who care passionately about things in Pembrokeshire not those who wander about paying lip service to local matters and promoting their own political ideals. Who is next Mr Grumpy??
Emma, Pembroke Dock says...
10:15pm Thu 1 Mar 07
John Doe, Pennar says...
11:08pm Thu 1 Mar 07
John Doe, Pennar says...
11:11pm Thu 1 Mar 07
Emma wrote:OF COURSE HE WAS DAMNED WHATEVER HE DID. HE HAD NO PLACE TO TURN BECAUSE HE HAD BEEN FOUND OUT!!!!!!
Susan have you ever met Brian? I have known Brian for 27years and would never describe him as a bully. I am concerned by what I read and hear from people on this board, half of who probably have never even had a conversation with him, by the way they have slagged him off. Whatever you people think about Brian he, his family and freinds all know the how much he has done for Pembroke Dock and many, many people still support him. It is a shame we have lost this local man from the council, he was damned whatever he did!
John Doe, Pennar says...
11:13pm Thu 1 Mar 07
Terry Gorton wrote:That will all be swept under the carpet now Terry for fear that some of the others in the IPG might be using the same scam!
Not before time, now perhaps an investigation can be held as to how he was able to claim all these expences?
John Doe, Pennar says...
11:15pm Thu 1 Mar 07
Sandra the cleaner wrote:I've heard this type of comment from several people. I've always thought that counciller duties were supposed to consist of mainly decisions made after group deliberations so it's got me stumped why Hall needs to spend so much time alone in County Hall....mind you, all of those expenses forms must have taken a lot of filling in......
Now perhaps we wont have to clean around "the midnight snooper" anymore
John Doe, Pennar says...
11:21pm Thu 1 Mar 07
Emma wrote:No, no Emma.....Tim is a fine member of our community and is simply calling a spade a spade, that's totally different to intimidating fellow councillers to get your own way, beating up on old ladies, fiddling your expenses, threatening to have people's limbs broken etc etc etc.
Tim McMahon, why is it you have an opinion about everything? Most of which doesn't concern you. Nearly every week we have to read your drivel in the Western Telegraph, it seems you know everything! Maybe you should look a little closer to home for a bully. After all what would you call the name calling in your previous post? I know what I would call it!!!
John Doe, Pennar says...
11:27pm Thu 1 Mar 07
In Cyder wrote:Exactly right I.C. I don't doubt that Cllr Hall has many good deeds he could call on. Unfortunately his darker side, greed and obnoxious attitude have far outweighed any good that he may have done for certain people.
Isn\'t it strange how when you stand up to a bully, you are accused of having a \"political agenda and too much time on your hands\".... grow up Gill, Brian Hall WAS a bully, and whilst he may have done much good, it was at too high a cost. A bully has no place being in any position of power!!! Since the formation of PCC, Cllr Hall has been well known as a bully, and threatened numerous memners of the public, staff and other councillors. His resignation from the Cabinet has not come a momemt too soon. Roll on the next elections when we can be rid of him for good. The one sad note is that the IPG members who were going to vote against him today were being seen as \"disloyal\" by the Leader and \"rulers\" of the IPG, who had no intention of sacking him from the Cabinet. So much for Cllr Davies stand on ethics and morals. Lets hope the voters remember who stood up for decency at the next election!!!
John Doe, Pennar says...
11:31pm Thu 1 Mar 07
Emma wrote:Emma, you are in a tiny tiny minority. His actions are simply indefensible it's as simple as that and after trying to fob the people of this county off with "Oh, I was only joking when I said I was going to have his arms and legs broken" HE HAS NOW ADMITTED THAT HE "LOST HIS COOL" and was sorry.
Susan have you ever met Brian? I have known Brian for 27years and would never describe him as a bully. I am concerned by what I read and hear from people on this board, half of who probably have never even had a conversation with him, by the way they have slagged him off. Whatever you people think about Brian he, his family and freinds all know the how much he has done for Pembroke Dock and many, many people still support him. It is a shame we have lost this local man from the council, he was damned whatever he did!
John Doe, Pennar says...
11:35pm Thu 1 Mar 07
Emma wrote:Emma, you are in a tiny tiny minority. His actions are simply indefensible it's as simple as that and after trying to fob the people of this county off with "Oh, I was only joking when I said I was going to have his arms and legs broken" HE HAS NOW ADMITTED THAT HE "LOST HIS COOL" and was sorry.
Susan have you ever met Brian? I have known Brian for 27years and would never describe him as a bully. I am concerned by what I read and hear from people on this board, half of who probably have never even had a conversation with him, by the way they have slagged him off. Whatever you people think about Brian he, his family and freinds all know the how much he has done for Pembroke Dock and many, many people still support him. It is a shame we have lost this local man from the council, he was damned whatever he did!
John Doe, Pennar says...
11:39pm Thu 1 Mar 07
John Doe, Pennar says...
11:42pm Thu 1 Mar 07
Walter, Pembroke Dock, says...
12:37am Fri 2 Mar 07
Tim McMahon, pennar/wales says...
8:17am Fri 2 Mar 07
Emma, Pembroke Dock says...
10:24am Fri 2 Mar 07
Jen, Milford Haven says...
10:52am Fri 2 Mar 07
Julie, Swansea says...
11:21am Fri 2 Mar 07
Victor Wooten, Milford Haven says...
11:24am Fri 2 Mar 07
Mr Treowen, pennar says...
11:48am Fri 2 Mar 07
Susan, says...
12:06pm Fri 2 Mar 07
Quetelet, Pembroke Dock says...
1:00pm Fri 2 Mar 07
Tim McMahon, PENNAR says...
4:36pm Fri 2 Mar 07
inside track, around and about says...
10:19pm Fri 2 Mar 07
Martin Lewis, Neyland says...
11:19am Sat 3 Mar 07
inside track wrote:I would have to agree with the above theory.
please do not think for one moment that he intended to resign on the night before the meeting following a liason with John davies which lasted well over an hour they were confident that they had enough support from within the group for him to carry on .Hall himself had telephoned all of the group asking for there support. Also at there pre council meeting despite some open dissent from group members who still have a mind of there own they were still of the opinion that he was safe .It was only at approx 9.15 on thursday after some of the more sneaky element within the group gauged the feeling of the members room that it was decided that it was to close a call for them to risk the humiliation of the inevitable recorded vote when there were cabinet members openly going to vote against him that he was requested to resign .as for this harassment crap you reap what you sow (would like to know who made him fill in his fanciful expense claims of average 600 miles a week at 50p ago which equates to more than most people earn per week in market ward )
john.f, llanreath says...
3:10pm Sat 3 Mar 07
Jon, Llanreath says...
7:56pm Sat 3 Mar 07
Ben Ando, Pembroke says...
3:18pm Sun 4 Mar 07
Susan, says...
3:38pm Sun 4 Mar 07
Ben Ando wrote:Don't forget fear.
Brian Hall was the very animal we deserve in Pembrokeshire. None of us can claim credit for his demise. Quite the opposite. We allow him and his kind to exist. What is it? Apathy? Ignorance? Laziness? I think it is something else...
It is not exaggerating to say that were it not for Mike Stoddart Brian would still be at his post. Pure and dedicated investigative journalism is not what you'll find in the WT, sadly. But it is something Stoddart contributes. If we had ten more journalists like him in our county, we would have a more accountable council. It's that simple. Demand more from your local journos... and go and vote while you're at it.
Happy Resident, Pembrokeshire says...
1:11pm Mon 5 Mar 07
Steve Heyward, Birmingham says...
1:33pm Mon 5 Mar 07
Susan, says...
2:04pm Mon 5 Mar 07
Steve Heyward wrote:Perhaps you should read Old Grumpy he is very informative. Many of us want Pembroke Dock to be a thriving town and we are doing our best, but that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to someone who is out for himself.
God Alive what the **** are you all on about.
All of you allowed him, and this council, to do the very things that you accuse him of. If any of you are in doubt of this then please do look up the word democracy in any dictionary. It seems that the old favorite sport of setting somebody up then knocking them down is still very alive. If he was so bad whay did you not vote him off !!!!
I have been away from home for over 20 years now, and I do know Brian Hall from when he ran the Garage in Pennar, I did not know him well but enough that I formed my own opinions of the man, which I will keep to myself. But one thing I will share, I do not know if he is guilty of any criminal wrongdoings as you seem to be freely alleging but I do accept that he is a passionate man and when passions are involved sometimes wrong things are said for which he is going to pay a price for.
However, as there are so many opinionated writers on this forum there will, no doubt be many people who will be looking to get elected in his place. Or will everybody revert back to norm and allow others to stand up ready for those who put them there to knock them down.
I miss my home town dearly, but reading this slandering of somebody who has not been found guilty of anything yet, just shows me that the town has moved backwards maybe this is why when I do go home the streets are empty, the shops are closed and the town is dying.
Cant you all grow up and fix what needs fixing.
The Great Dave, Haverfordwest says...
12:57pm Tue 6 Mar 07
Tim McMahon, Pennar(and living here) says...
4:53pm Tue 6 Mar 07
Walter, Pembroke Dock says...
7:57pm Wed 7 Mar 07
Susan, says...
9:44pm Wed 7 Mar 07
Pennar Resident, Pembroke Dock says...
12:47pm Wed 14 Mar 07
Tim McMahon wrote:Tim - what rubbish - you shouldn't listen to gossip. I remember Brian left his family on Christmas Day to open the garage for me as my car had run out of petrol and I needed to get to see my mother, who else would have done that? And I've got 3 words to say to you - "Laurel and Hardy" - your credibiity is non existant - cracks me up every time I drive past. Hideous.
Steve: Quite rightly you express your opinion,which is valuable, but as you live away the situation is not so close to home.Yes the Halls had Pennar Garage but when I first moved here the residents who lived here then,only recount during this time of owning the garage(now Pennar Court,private houses) due to a very heavy winter of snow and unable to get vital supplies in Pennar and due to no access to get to the Dock,the garage expolited the situation by charging excess prices for neccessities as in bread and milk.Obviously parental example has moulded the person that is Mr.Hall allegedly
Emma, Pembroke Dock says...
2:39pm Wed 14 Mar 07
Ex Pennar, Pembroke Dock says...
8:47pm Wed 14 Mar 07
Tim McMahon, Pennar says...
4:24pm Wed 21 Mar 07
Wilson, Milfrod says...
11:21pm Thu 22 Mar 07
Jen wrote:"just me and Brian Hall"
Every one is entitled to there opinion. I also knew Brian through PCC he was an active member and on one occasion gave me the motivation to continue in a very difficult job, ok he may have offended many people but he also motivated people he knew to be the best he could. Doesn\'t everyone have abit of a temper or paddy on occasion, or is it just me and Brian Hall? Sadly on occasion he thought aloud? have any of the writers been in such a responsible position of authority? Has anyone considered the stress levels involved in such a role? I dont know any of the people writing but i am curious as to how much you have all done for your own communities? He has been centre of attention for too long now, give the man a break he is actually \"only human\"
yvonne m nicholl BSY (veg th), penally says...
11:05pm Mon 14 Jan 08
John Doe, Pennar says...
9:00am Thu 31 Jan 08
Brian, Pembroke says...
2:26am Fri 8 Feb 08
yvonne-mandy nicholl BSY (veg th), penally says...
10:12pm Wed 20 Feb 08
TIM MCMAHON, a happy pennar resident! says...
4:13pm Thu 1 Mar 07