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Was Brian Hall right to stand down? Have your say

3:45pm Thursday 1st March 2007

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There was drama in County Hall this morning (Thursday) when Councillor Brian Hall walked out after resigning his Cabinet seat.

During a long speech which started with an apology, he said he would also retire from the Mid and West Wales Fire Authority when his term of office as chairman ends this year and decide later whether or not to remain a member of the County Council independent group.

He also announced that he was revoking his right to claim travelling expenses.

"I am a simple man and do my very best, but unfortunately, I also sometimes lose my cool and say things I regret. For that I want to apologise for what I may have said or done" he said.

So, was Cllr Hall right to step down? Have your say below.


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TIM MCMAHON, a happy pennar resident! says...
4:13pm Thu 1 Mar 07

As in the "The Wizard of Oz" the line went the wicked witch is dead and how appropiate for this disallusioned ex-councillor in his feeble excuses for his behaviour.He quotes:"I am a simple man.....",however the problem was he treat everyone else as the simpleton,Good Riddance to a bully!

Terry Gorton, pembroke dock says...
5:38pm Thu 1 Mar 07

Not before time, now perhaps an investigation can be held as to how he was able to claim all these expences?

Sandra the cleaner, County Hall says...
7:18pm Thu 1 Mar 07

Now perhaps we wont have to clean around "the midnight snooper" anymore

Gill, Saundersfoot says...
7:22pm Thu 1 Mar 07

What a shame, the ordinary people that Brian Hall has helped in the past don't have a voice unlike those with a political agenda and too much time on their hands. We need more councillors like Mr Hall who care passionately about things in Pembrokeshire not those who wander about paying lip service to local matters and promoting their own political ideals. Who is next Mr Grumpy??

In Cyder, Haverfordwest says...
8:34pm Thu 1 Mar 07

Isn't it strange how when you stand up to a bully, you are accused of having a "political agenda and too much time on your hands".... grow up Gill, Brian Hall WAS a bully, and whilst he may have done much good, it was at too high a cost. A bully has no place being in any position of power!!!
Since the formation of PCC, Cllr Hall has been well known as a bully, and threatened numerous memners of the public, staff and other councillors. His resignation from the Cabinet has not come a momemt too soon. Roll on the next elections when we can be rid of him for good.
The one sad note is that the IPG members who were going to vote against him today were being seen as "disloyal" by the Leader and "rulers" of the IPG, who had no intention of sacking him from the Cabinet. So much for Cllr Davies stand on ethics and morals.
Lets hope the voters remember who stood up for decency at the next election!!!

Emma, Pembroke Dock says...
8:37pm Thu 1 Mar 07

Tim McMahon, why is it you have an opinion about everything? Most of which doesn't concern you. Nearly every week we have to read your drivel in the Western Telegraph, it seems you know everything! Maybe you should look a little closer to home for a bully. After all what would you call the name calling in your previous post? I know what I would call it!!!

Susan, says...
9:37pm Thu 1 Mar 07

Gill wrote:
What a shame, the ordinary people that Brian Hall has helped in the past don't have a voice unlike those with a political agenda and too much time on their hands. We need more councillors like Mr Hall who care passionately about things in Pembrokeshire not those who wander about paying lip service to local matters and promoting their own political ideals. Who is next Mr Grumpy??
All I can say is I have yet to meet a single person who has anything good to say about Mr Hall and that was long before this fiasco. I have heard him described as a bully so many times by people who have known him for years.

I am concerned by what I read and hear regarding Mr Hall he seems to care more for himself than for anything else. I am sick of reading that he is for the people, no he's not, he's for himself.

Emma, Pembroke Dock says...
10:15pm Thu 1 Mar 07

Susan have you ever met Brian? I have known Brian for 27years and would never describe him as a bully. I am concerned by what I read and hear from people on this board, half of who probably have never even had a conversation with him, by the way they have slagged him off. Whatever you people think about Brian he, his family and freinds all know the how much he has done for Pembroke Dock and many, many people still support him. It is a shame we have lost this local man from the council, he was damned whatever he did!

John Doe, Pennar says...
11:08pm Thu 1 Mar 07

"but unfortunately, I also sometimes lose my cool and say things I regret.".........

SO.......AFTER SPENDING SO LONG TELLING PEOPLE HE WAS ONLY JOKING WHEN HE THREATENED TO HAVE THE REPORTER'S ARMS AND LEGS BROKEN, HE HAS NOW ADMITTED THAT HE LOST HIS COOL AND SAID THOSE WORDS......TOTALLY DIFFERENT KETTLE OF FISH, WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY THAT EXPENSIVE SOLICITOR TURNED OUT TO BE......

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John Doe, Pennar says...
11:11pm Thu 1 Mar 07

Emma wrote:
Susan have you ever met Brian? I have known Brian for 27years and would never describe him as a bully. I am concerned by what I read and hear from people on this board, half of who probably have never even had a conversation with him, by the way they have slagged him off. Whatever you people think about Brian he, his family and freinds all know the how much he has done for Pembroke Dock and many, many people still support him. It is a shame we have lost this local man from the council, he was damned whatever he did!
OF COURSE HE WAS DAMNED WHATEVER HE DID. HE HAD NO PLACE TO TURN BECAUSE HE HAD BEEN FOUND OUT!!!!!!

I NEVER MET MARGARET THATCHER BUT I STILL HATE THE B!TCH WITH ALL MY HEART FOR RAPING THE WORKING CLASS OF THIS COUNTRY FOR SO MANY YEARS!!!!

John Doe, Pennar says...
11:13pm Thu 1 Mar 07

Terry Gorton wrote:
Not before time, now perhaps an investigation can be held as to how he was able to claim all these expences?
That will all be swept under the carpet now Terry for fear that some of the others in the IPG might be using the same scam!

John Doe, Pennar says...
11:15pm Thu 1 Mar 07

Sandra the cleaner wrote:
Now perhaps we wont have to clean around "the midnight snooper" anymore
I've heard this type of comment from several people. I've always thought that counciller duties were supposed to consist of mainly decisions made after group deliberations so it's got me stumped why Hall needs to spend so much time alone in County Hall....mind you, all of those expenses forms must have taken a lot of filling in......

John Doe, Pennar says...
11:21pm Thu 1 Mar 07

Emma wrote:
Tim McMahon, why is it you have an opinion about everything? Most of which doesn't concern you. Nearly every week we have to read your drivel in the Western Telegraph, it seems you know everything! Maybe you should look a little closer to home for a bully. After all what would you call the name calling in your previous post? I know what I would call it!!!
No, no Emma.....Tim is a fine member of our community and is simply calling a spade a spade, that's totally different to intimidating fellow councillers to get your own way, beating up on old ladies, fiddling your expenses, threatening to have people's limbs broken etc etc etc.

John Doe, Pennar says...
11:27pm Thu 1 Mar 07

In Cyder wrote:
Isn\'t it strange how when you stand up to a bully, you are accused of having a \"political agenda and too much time on your hands\".... grow up Gill, Brian Hall WAS a bully, and whilst he may have done much good, it was at too high a cost. A bully has no place being in any position of power!!! Since the formation of PCC, Cllr Hall has been well known as a bully, and threatened numerous memners of the public, staff and other councillors. His resignation from the Cabinet has not come a momemt too soon. Roll on the next elections when we can be rid of him for good. The one sad note is that the IPG members who were going to vote against him today were being seen as \"disloyal\" by the Leader and \"rulers\" of the IPG, who had no intention of sacking him from the Cabinet. So much for Cllr Davies stand on ethics and morals. Lets hope the voters remember who stood up for decency at the next election!!!
Exactly right I.C. I don't doubt that Cllr Hall has many good deeds he could call on. Unfortunately his darker side, greed and obnoxious attitude have far outweighed any good that he may have done for certain people.

You just can't behave that way, not in public but especially not in public office.

Hopefully with some of his powers now waned he will have to retract on his efforts to reduce the fire brigage cover at Haverfordwest. I hope Sue Perkins and all of the others now go for the jugular in this respect. As her letter in this week's Telegraph says....he is too self centred to consider his fellow councillers opinions on the matter and I venture to bet that he will continue to ignore the wishes of the Pembrokeshire people on this matter too.

HOW MANY OF YOU HALL SUPPORTERS ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE FINAL NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF 100% READY 24 HOUR FIRE COVER IN OUR COUNTY????

COME ON, SPEAK UP, I'VE YET TO HEAR A STRAIGHT EXPLANATION ON HOW THIS CAN BE VIEWED AS AN IMPROVEMENT. YOU ONLY EVER ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THAT SUIT YOU!!!!!

MAYBE NOW BRIAN'S NOT GOING TO BE CLAIMING ANY EXPENSES THE BUDGET WILL HAVE EXTRA FUNDS AVAILABLE TO KEEP THE NIGHT TIME FIREFIGHTING COVER!!!!!!!!

John Doe, Pennar says...
11:31pm Thu 1 Mar 07

Emma wrote:
Susan have you ever met Brian? I have known Brian for 27years and would never describe him as a bully. I am concerned by what I read and hear from people on this board, half of who probably have never even had a conversation with him, by the way they have slagged him off. Whatever you people think about Brian he, his family and freinds all know the how much he has done for Pembroke Dock and many, many people still support him. It is a shame we have lost this local man from the council, he was damned whatever he did!
Emma, you are in a tiny tiny minority. His actions are simply indefensible it's as simple as that and after trying to fob the people of this county off with "Oh, I was only joking when I said I was going to have his arms and legs broken" HE HAS NOW ADMITTED THAT HE "LOST HIS COOL" and was sorry.

IN MY EYES THAT PROVES THAT HE HAS BLATANTLY LIED LIED & LIED AGAIN

John Doe, Pennar says...
11:35pm Thu 1 Mar 07

Emma wrote:
Susan have you ever met Brian? I have known Brian for 27years and would never describe him as a bully. I am concerned by what I read and hear from people on this board, half of who probably have never even had a conversation with him, by the way they have slagged him off. Whatever you people think about Brian he, his family and freinds all know the how much he has done for Pembroke Dock and many, many people still support him. It is a shame we have lost this local man from the council, he was damned whatever he did!
Emma, you are in a tiny tiny minority. His actions are simply indefensible it's as simple as that and after trying to fob the people of this county off with "Oh, I was only joking when I said I was going to have his arms and legs broken" HE HAS NOW ADMITTED THAT HE "LOST HIS COOL" and was sorry.

THAT PROVES THAT HE HAS BLATANTLY LIED LIED & LIED AGAIN TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY - MY GOD, WHAT ELSE DOES HE HAVE TO DO TO PROVE THAT HE WAS ONLY OUT TO SAVE HIS OWN NECK. HE IS DISHONEST. HE IS SELFISH. HE IS A FRAUDSTER. HE IS A BULLY. HE IS A LIAR. HE RESIGNED BECAUSE HE KNEW HE WOULD BE KICKED OUT OTHERWISE AND RESIGNING WAS A SLIGHTLY LESS HUMILIATING EXPERIENCE FOR HIM.

HE DUPED US PEOPLE IN PENNAR FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND WE FINALLY GOT RID OF HIM. NOW HOPEFULLY HE HAS BEEN SHOWN FOR WHAT HE TRULY IS THE PEOPLE OF PEMBROKE DOCK MARKET WARD WILL SEE THE LIGHT TOO - IT'S NOT HARD, HE'S BEEN PROVED A LIAR AND ADMITTED IT. HE'S ABUSED HIS POSITION FOR FAR FAR TOO LONG AND I FOR ONE AM VERY VERY VERY GLAD THAT HE HAS BEEN REIGNED IN AT LAST.

John Doe, Pennar says...
11:39pm Thu 1 Mar 07

SO.......WHO IS NEXT? HOW ABOUT THE ILLUSTRIOUS LEADER JOHN DAVIES? HOW CAN HE BE ALLOWED TO REMAIN IN HIS JOB AFTER BACKING BRIAN HALL THROUGH SO MANY OF HIS SCAMS? HE SHOULD HAVE SACKED HALL NOT WAITED FOR HIM TO RESIGN - THERE HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AGAINST HIM FOR A LONG TIME.

THE STUTTERING HYPOCRITICAL IDIOT SHOULD FOLLOW HALL'S EXAMPLE AND RESIGN. HE HAS NO RESPECT FROM THE PEOPLE AFTER PROMISING THE "HIGHEST ETHICAL STANDARDS" AND THEN ALLOWING BRIAN HALL AND OTHERS TO BEHAVE WITH THE MORALS AND ETHICS OF AN ALLEY CAT.

John Doe, Pennar says...
11:42pm Thu 1 Mar 07

GOD BLESS AND LONG LIVE OLD GRUMPY!!!!!

THANK YOU MR STODDART

Walter, Pembroke Dock, says...
12:37am Fri 2 Mar 07

My my, you have been busy tonight John.

As for Night Time Cover in Haverfordwest, By the removal of Hall it wont change a thing, April 2nd 2007 Haverfordwest will be downgraded. Hall and that lying lady Mrs Llewellyn who according to a few of my contacts in Pembroke and Haverfordwest set them up for a fall. A Labour / Modern Tory councillor who actually used Brian Hall ! accusing him of bullying her into voting for the Downgrading of Pembrokeshires only Shift Station, when in-fact she took part in the protest to keep it open, and within a week voting for the Risk reduction plan implementation and the sword to Haverfordwest. At the previous Assembly elections, Ainger,Gwyther and Llewellyn all stood up to fight the Mid and West Wales RRP, once the elections were over....where did Gwyther and Ainger go ??????

Now here we have the Labour group starting to pipe up again ? what must be happening soon ?

As for the Council, wonder what will happen to Mirehouse, lets not forget Brian Hall and Llewellyn weren't the only Pembrokeshire councillors to vote through the destruction of the fire Service in Pembrokeshire, Mirehouse also put the boot in. Now the question has been put on this site about the amount of people Hall represents in the Market Ward ?.
I put it to the Pembrokeshire people, how many people does Squirehouse represent ????? bet its less than Brian Hall.

Pembrokeshire should have people on that authority who have had some knowledge of the FRS, i think it was Elvis on the other thread that posed the question for the Milford People to try and convince Mike George to stand.

A very much respected and knowledgeable person by all accounts.

Or How about Old Grumpy ?

Tim McMahon, pennar/wales says...
8:17am Fri 2 Mar 07

Emma/Pembroke Dock: Thank-you for your comments.Great living in a state which encourages freedom of speech is it not ? Otherwise your wonderful contribution would not have been printed,see you in the letters page next week I hope(you could always choose not to read what does not agree with you,it is called freedom of choice! .

Emma, Pembroke Dock says...
10:24am Fri 2 Mar 07

John Doe who says I'm in a tiny tiny minority? Sorry my mistake, you have decided that so it must be true!!!
Walter I can't see how Old Grumpy would have time to do anything else he's too busy slagging off other people and sticking his nose in other peoples buisness, much the same as alot of you who post on this forum.
Tim McMahon I will no doubt see your name printed in the letter page next week oh how I'll look forward to this. Maybe you could write in with something that concerns you this week instead of giving us your usual patronising advice about things which have nothing to do with you. That is my opinion, my freedom of speech.

Jen, Milford Haven says...
10:52am Fri 2 Mar 07

Every one is entitled to there opinion. I also knew Brian through PCC he was an active member and on one occasion gave me the motivation to continue in a very difficult job, ok he may have offended many people but he also motivated people he knew to be the best he could. Doesn't everyone have abit of a temper or paddy on occasion, or is it just me and Brian Hall? Sadly on occasion he thought aloud? have any of the writers been in such a responsible position of authority? Has anyone considered the stress levels involved in such a role? I dont know any of the people writing but i am curious as to how much you have all done for your own communities? He has been centre of attention for too long now, give the man a break he is actually "only human"

Julie, Swansea says...
11:21am Fri 2 Mar 07

Excellent news perhaps Brian Hall can go and get a proper job like the rest of us.

Victor Wooten, Milford Haven says...
11:24am Fri 2 Mar 07

As far as I can tell Hall DID do alot for Pembroke Dock however he did more for himself. He is corrupt - pure and simple! He walked before he was pushed. I'm sure firing was a last resort for the "Independents" but as Hall's behaviour started to threaten other councillor's seats, something had to give - it's just a shame it wasn't sooner!

Mr Treowen, pennar says...
11:48am Fri 2 Mar 07

Well, I think Brian's said it all really with his comment 'I'm a simple man' at last he speaks the truth! If you want a really good laugh go the PCC website and put Conservative councillors into the search section. The response is 'there are currently no Conservative councillors' what a hoot! What's wrong with admitting you're a Tory? Say it loud be blue and proud!

Susan, says...
12:06pm Fri 2 Mar 07

Shock, horror I actually met one person today who said he liked B Hall. But I also heard many people say how much they disliked him.

Quetelet, Pembroke Dock says...
1:00pm Fri 2 Mar 07

Hmmmm, Bully Boy Brian will be back on the committee after the next election - the electorate are too fickle to recall the shenanigans and vote him out!

Tim McMahon, PENNAR says...
4:36pm Fri 2 Mar 07

Emma (pembroke dock): You appear to feel it is an accolade to have known Mr.Brian Hall for 27 years,bully for you,once again you admirably express freedom of choice in your open declaration of friendship,because as they say "you can choose your friends but not your family".People in their context,throughout history, liked Rasputin and many other unsavoury characters.As to "patronizing" advice in my letters,as the dictionary states,"to give encouragement to",the matters I raise in my letters are directly concerning the community in general affecting everyone(using mobiles while driving,health issues,etcetera...) not purely myself but which directly affects me as a person who cares for others,a bit like a decent councillor?

inside track, around and about says...
10:19pm Fri 2 Mar 07

please do not think for one moment that he intended to resign on the night before the meeting following a liason with John davies which lasted well over an hour they were confident that they had enough support from within the group for him to carry on .Hall himself had telephoned all of the group asking for there support. Also at there pre council meeting despite some open dissent from group members who still have a mind of there own they were still of the opinion that he was safe .It was only at approx 9.15 on thursday after some of the more sneaky element within the group gauged the feeling of the members room that it was decided that it was to close a call for them to risk the humiliation of the inevitable recorded vote when there were cabinet members openly going to vote against him that he was requested to resign .as for this harassment crap you reap what you sow (would like to know who made him fill in his fanciful expense claims of average 600 miles a week at 50p ago which equates to more than most people earn per week in market ward )

Martin Lewis, Neyland says...
11:19am Sat 3 Mar 07

inside track wrote:
please do not think for one moment that he intended to resign on the night before the meeting following a liason with John davies which lasted well over an hour they were confident that they had enough support from within the group for him to carry on .Hall himself had telephoned all of the group asking for there support. Also at there pre council meeting despite some open dissent from group members who still have a mind of there own they were still of the opinion that he was safe .It was only at approx 9.15 on thursday after some of the more sneaky element within the group gauged the feeling of the members room that it was decided that it was to close a call for them to risk the humiliation of the inevitable recorded vote when there were cabinet members openly going to vote against him that he was requested to resign .as for this harassment crap you reap what you sow (would like to know who made him fill in his fanciful expense claims of average 600 miles a week at 50p ago which equates to more than most people earn per week in market ward )
I would have to agree with the above theory.

The full transcript of his speech is on another WT page:

http://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/display.var.1233360.0.brian_hall_relentless_campaign_against_me.php

If indeed this is an accurate transcript of what he said, and does not include any editing typos then it must be the most incoherent, embarrassing and badly prepared speech ever by a public figure and would tally with it being thrown together at the last minute.

Full of spin and bu!!sh!t. If only he had apologised in the first place over the threats and expenses claims and toed the line from there then maybe people would have believed he was truly a "simple man" with flaws and forgiven him. It was his continuing greed and obnoxious attitude that was ultimately his downfall, not the physical threats of violence.

john.f, llanreath says...
3:10pm Sat 3 Mar 07

HALLelujah,atlast democracy seen to happen in this awful council. Voters,the next step is yours. Thank you all councillors who stood up to achieve this result.

Jon, Llanreath says...
7:56pm Sat 3 Mar 07

Brian Hall no right to resign when he did because John Davies should have sacked him last year which now puts John Davies in the same boat.HE SHOULD NOW RESIGN,if not, then are we to presume that all Cabinet members are tarred with the same brush.

Ben Ando, Pembroke says...
3:18pm Sun 4 Mar 07

Brian Hall was the very animal we deserve in Pembrokeshire. None of us can claim credit for his demise. Quite the opposite. We allow him and his kind to exist. What is it? Apathy? Ignorance? Laziness? I think it is something else...

It is not exaggerating to say that were it not for Mike Stoddart Brian would still be at his post. Pure and dedicated investigative journalism is not what you'll find in the WT, sadly. But it is something Stoddart contributes. If we had ten more journalists like him in our county, we would have a more accountable council. It's that simple. Demand more from your local journos... and go and vote while you're at it.

Susan, says...
3:38pm Sun 4 Mar 07

Ben Ando wrote:
Brian Hall was the very animal we deserve in Pembrokeshire. None of us can claim credit for his demise. Quite the opposite. We allow him and his kind to exist. What is it? Apathy? Ignorance? Laziness? I think it is something else...

It is not exaggerating to say that were it not for Mike Stoddart Brian would still be at his post. Pure and dedicated investigative journalism is not what you'll find in the WT, sadly. But it is something Stoddart contributes. If we had ten more journalists like him in our county, we would have a more accountable council. It's that simple. Demand more from your local journos... and go and vote while you're at it.
Don't forget fear.

Happy Resident, Pembrokeshire says...
1:11pm Mon 5 Mar 07

I as Emma have known CLLR Brian Hall for many years.He was a slimy git then and has got worse with time.Thank goodness he's gone for the goodness of Pembroke Dock.
They say it is the youth of today that give our town a bad name,try looking at the suppossed resepected members of our community first!!May he now live a long and miserable life!

Steve Heyward, Birmingham says...
1:33pm Mon 5 Mar 07

God Alive what the **** are you all on about.

All of you allowed him, and this council, to do the very things that you accuse him of. If any of you are in doubt of this then please do look up the word democracy in any dictionary. It seems that the old favorite sport of setting somebody up then knocking them down is still very alive. If he was so bad whay did you not vote him off !!!!

I have been away from home for over 20 years now, and I do know Brian Hall from when he ran the Garage in Pennar, I did not know him well but enough that I formed my own opinions of the man, which I will keep to myself. But one thing I will share, I do not know if he is guilty of any criminal wrongdoings as you seem to be freely alleging but I do accept that he is a passionate man and when passions are involved sometimes wrong things are said for which he is going to pay a price for.

However, as there are so many opinionated writers on this forum there will, no doubt be many people who will be looking to get elected in his place. Or will everybody revert back to norm and allow others to stand up ready for those who put them there to knock them down.

I miss my home town dearly, but reading this slandering of somebody who has not been found guilty of anything yet, just shows me that the town has moved backwards maybe this is why when I do go home the streets are empty, the shops are closed and the town is dying.

Cant you all grow up and fix what needs fixing.

Susan, says...
2:04pm Mon 5 Mar 07

Steve Heyward wrote:
God Alive what the **** are you all on about.

All of you allowed him, and this council, to do the very things that you accuse him of. If any of you are in doubt of this then please do look up the word democracy in any dictionary. It seems that the old favorite sport of setting somebody up then knocking them down is still very alive. If he was so bad whay did you not vote him off !!!!

I have been away from home for over 20 years now, and I do know Brian Hall from when he ran the Garage in Pennar, I did not know him well but enough that I formed my own opinions of the man, which I will keep to myself. But one thing I will share, I do not know if he is guilty of any criminal wrongdoings as you seem to be freely alleging but I do accept that he is a passionate man and when passions are involved sometimes wrong things are said for which he is going to pay a price for.

However, as there are so many opinionated writers on this forum there will, no doubt be many people who will be looking to get elected in his place. Or will everybody revert back to norm and allow others to stand up ready for those who put them there to knock them down.

I miss my home town dearly, but reading this slandering of somebody who has not been found guilty of anything yet, just shows me that the town has moved backwards maybe this is why when I do go home the streets are empty, the shops are closed and the town is dying.

Cant you all grow up and fix what needs fixing.
Perhaps you should read Old Grumpy he is very informative. Many of us want Pembroke Dock to be a thriving town and we are doing our best, but that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to someone who is out for himself.

There are quite a few town councillors and county councillors who are looking out for the Dock and have it's welfare at heart and not their own. But of course, you living away wouldn't know that.

If I lived in Market ward I would not voted for B Hall.

The Great Dave, Haverfordwest says...
12:57pm Tue 6 Mar 07

As an employee in County Hall, I can assure readers that I and all my colleagues that I have spoken to are in agreement that this building is a happier place for knowing that this bully is no longer in the cabinet.

Tim McMahon, Pennar(and living here) says...
4:53pm Tue 6 Mar 07

Steve: Quite rightly you express your opinion,which is valuable, but as you live away the situation is not so close to home.Yes the Halls had Pennar Garage but when I first moved here the residents who lived here then,only recount during this time of owning the garage(now Pennar Court,private houses) due to a very heavy winter of snow and unable to get vital supplies in Pennar and due to no access to get to the Dock,the garage expolited the situation by charging excess prices for neccessities as in bread and milk.Obviously parental example has moulded the person that is Mr.Hall allegedly

Walter, Pembroke Dock says...
7:57pm Wed 7 Mar 07

I would like to congratulate Councillor Hall for all the money spent on the commons development, Its good to see someone taking the issue of the commons flooding seriously !!!

I'm not quite sure if it was £1million or £2Million to do all the work. And all the disruption caused to the residents and visitors to Pembroke over the past 8 months.

So i was really please to see how effective the work has been this week following the bad weather we're endured. .................The bloody commons are flooded again !!! Water over the "DEEPER" banks flowing into the park, debris blocking the channel under Bridgend Terrace.......... I will make a prediction, Someone is going to drown following the works on the commons !!

I could have saved the Tax Payer of Pembrokeshire Millions by making one suggestion...... OPEN THE BLOODY DAM !!!!!!!!

PEMBROKE HAS FLOODED BEFORE BECAUSE SOMEONE FORGOT TO OPEN THE DAM AND ELEVIATING THE WATER BUILD UP IN CASTLE POND !!!!!

Christ i should run for councillor, or even go before Dragons Den.

Well Brian another failure to add to your CV !!

Susan, says...
9:44pm Wed 7 Mar 07

Well I am just glad that the Telegraph is reporting both sides of the story when it comes to B Hall. I was starting to think that they were running his fan club.

Pennar Resident, Pembroke Dock says...
12:47pm Wed 14 Mar 07

Tim McMahon wrote:
Steve: Quite rightly you express your opinion,which is valuable, but as you live away the situation is not so close to home.Yes the Halls had Pennar Garage but when I first moved here the residents who lived here then,only recount during this time of owning the garage(now Pennar Court,private houses) due to a very heavy winter of snow and unable to get vital supplies in Pennar and due to no access to get to the Dock,the garage expolited the situation by charging excess prices for neccessities as in bread and milk.Obviously parental example has moulded the person that is Mr.Hall allegedly
Tim - what rubbish - you shouldn't listen to gossip. I remember Brian left his family on Christmas Day to open the garage for me as my car had run out of petrol and I needed to get to see my mother, who else would have done that? And I've got 3 words to say to you - "Laurel and Hardy" - your credibiity is non existant - cracks me up every time I drive past. Hideous.

Emma, Pembroke Dock says...
2:39pm Wed 14 Mar 07

HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA I agree hideous, thanks for the laugh Pennar Resident.HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HAHA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA!!!

Ex Pennar, Pembroke Dock says...
8:47pm Wed 14 Mar 07

I'd just like to add to the previous comments. When Brian had the garage he would often give me cauliflowers and potatoes while I was getting my petrol which I was always gratefull for with 2 small children. Another point if anybody in Pennar was concerned with the alleged increase in price of milk at the garage they surely would have just gone to see Paul the Milk.

Tim McMahon, Pennar says...
4:24pm Wed 21 Mar 07

To Pennar resident(anonymous).. Everyone to their own opinion, that is what democracy is about and non-toleration of bullies in government,local or national.

Wilson, Milfrod says...
11:21pm Thu 22 Mar 07

Jen wrote:
Every one is entitled to there opinion. I also knew Brian through PCC he was an active member and on one occasion gave me the motivation to continue in a very difficult job, ok he may have offended many people but he also motivated people he knew to be the best he could. Doesn\'t everyone have abit of a temper or paddy on occasion, or is it just me and Brian Hall? Sadly on occasion he thought aloud? have any of the writers been in such a responsible position of authority? Has anyone considered the stress levels involved in such a role? I dont know any of the people writing but i am curious as to how much you have all done for your own communities? He has been centre of attention for too long now, give the man a break he is actually \"only human\"
"just me and Brian Hall"

Sounds like a great title for a love ballad

;)

yvonne m nicholl BSY (veg th), penally says...
11:05pm Mon 14 Jan 08

My oh my, all of the letters about Mr Brian Hall's councilor elect demise, sure made interesting reading. One could almost see by the depth of possible anger that he had a lot of enemies, and very few friends - however I feel assured that he may not be the last of the 'play-ground bully' labeled as such even if he did or did not aspire or conspire to that level?

And so, this man because through all the bitter words that surrounded him he is but a man, came some very uncanny and rather subjective remarks aimed at not only the former councilor, but far more channeled at each other.

It is an astonishing fact that opinions can not be brokered anymore in a social country where 'freedom of speech' is still valued, opinion is just as great a chalice.

Why then do we lower the standard of good healthy discussion by taking cheap shots at one or another? writing ad hoc remarks, sending across and over even under near knuckle insults?

It will soon be a year almost since the last election, the time when you saw all the lily limp handshakes exchange and take over.

I wouldn't give my eye's teeth to be any councilor or politician it is a daunting task to please peter, paul, and yes even mary!!

If one held his/her own to the very gates of righteousness then they have indeed fared well.

So here I am half way through january 2008 reading what all you fair and good people wrote about Mr Brian Hall and also about each other!!

It only leaves me to say imitation is still the sincerest form of flattery!!

John Doe, Pennar says...
9:00am Thu 31 Jan 08

miss yvonne, you make some good points but bullying people, fiddling travel expenses at the taxpayer's expense and threats of extreme violence are what led to his eventual demise, not simply a case of making some unpopular decisions......like closing 24 hour cover at haverfordwest fire station.......

oh, but he got some little village a grant to renovate their church hall, well that's ok then.......

the fact that so many people are still reading these stories show the depth of feeling and hopefully will encourage his stated intent to not run for local office this year.

Brian, Pembroke says...
2:26am Fri 8 Feb 08

Step down LOL. He should be put down! It`s about time all the over payed corrupt councilors where weeded out. Then replaced with locals, who will look after local interests unlike these wine drinking plastic incoming middle class 1-a-bies

yvonne-mandy nicholl BSY (veg th), penally says...
10:12pm Wed 20 Feb 08

I totally agree corrupt councilors should not hold the position of local office but they do and will keep on in their brief moments of glory, until the cows come home so to speak.

Yes, most locals are looking after the local interests, come what may- when it gets into class distinction they are clearly letting their own status forth what is quite