Crowds in York bid farewell to Olympic Torch

The Olympic Torch boards Scots Guardsman at the National Railway Museum as it leaves York.

Jessica Hoggarth, a pupil of All Saints School hands over the Olympic Torch after her run from York Minster.

Jessica Hoggarth, a pupil of All Saints School holds the Olympic Torch after it was re-lit outside York Minster

First published in London Olympics 2012 - Latest News Western Telegraph: Photograph of the Author by , richard.catton@thepress.co.uk

The Olympic flame left York this morning to the sound of cheering crowds at the National Railway Museum (NRM).

After setting out from the Minster at 7.44am the torch was carried to the NRM , where it left for Thirsk on board the Scots Guardsman.

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11:48am Wed 20 Jun 12

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

I think you'll find this is a No Smoking compartment...
I think you'll find this is a No Smoking compartment... Ignatius Lumpopo
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12:52pm Wed 20 Jun 12

ReginaldBiscuit says...

It's true, apes really are idiots. Mind you looking round the world, there are plenty of examples to choose from without getting excited about a fire-stick.

If only sapiens were so passionate about global warming or the starving and the poor.
It's true, apes really are idiots. Mind you looking round the world, there are plenty of examples to choose from without getting excited about a fire-stick. If only sapiens were so passionate about global warming or the starving and the poor. ReginaldBiscuit
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1:11pm Wed 20 Jun 12

JC42 says...

I also do believe that the torch in the picture is not the olympic flame but a Mine Workers Safety Lamp .
I also do believe that the torch in the picture is not the olympic flame but a Mine Workers Safety Lamp . JC42
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1:12pm Wed 20 Jun 12

Shouter says...

ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
It's true, apes really are idiots. Mind you looking round the world, there are plenty of examples to choose from without getting excited about a fire-stick. If only sapiens were so passionate about global warming or the starving and the poor.
Well said Reggie. It's mass hysteria over a hyped over nothing. Personally I would be much more excited if a cure had been found for cancer, or all wars and killing stopped, than following a corporate bandwagon around the country.
[quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: It's true, apes really are idiots. Mind you looking round the world, there are plenty of examples to choose from without getting excited about a fire-stick. If only sapiens were so passionate about global warming or the starving and the poor.[/p][/quote]Well said Reggie. It's mass hysteria over a hyped over nothing. Personally I would be much more excited if a cure had been found for cancer, or all wars and killing stopped, than following a corporate bandwagon around the country. Shouter
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1:39pm Wed 20 Jun 12

York Bob says...

Shouter wrote:
ReginaldBiscuit wrote: It's true, apes really are idiots. Mind you looking round the world, there are plenty of examples to choose from without getting excited about a fire-stick. If only sapiens were so passionate about global warming or the starving and the poor.
Well said Reggie. It's mass hysteria over a hyped over nothing. Personally I would be much more excited if a cure had been found for cancer, or all wars and killing stopped, than following a corporate bandwagon around the country.
I'm surprised you two have time to comment here inbetween your tireless efforts to fight disease, famine and war. After all, you have both suggested that nothing else is worthwhile other than pursuing these goals.

I took my kids to see the torch yesterday, and they experienced a great sense of community and civic pride as well as ideas for lots of sports they can play.

Stop being so miserable and if you don't like stories about the torch, don't click on them, let alone comment on them.
[quote][p][bold]Shouter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: It's true, apes really are idiots. Mind you looking round the world, there are plenty of examples to choose from without getting excited about a fire-stick. If only sapiens were so passionate about global warming or the starving and the poor.[/p][/quote]Well said Reggie. It's mass hysteria over a hyped over nothing. Personally I would be much more excited if a cure had been found for cancer, or all wars and killing stopped, than following a corporate bandwagon around the country.[/p][/quote]I'm surprised you two have time to comment here inbetween your tireless efforts to fight disease, famine and war. After all, you have both suggested that nothing else is worthwhile other than pursuing these goals. I took my kids to see the torch yesterday, and they experienced a great sense of community and civic pride as well as ideas for lots of sports they can play. Stop being so miserable and if you don't like stories about the torch, don't click on them, let alone comment on them. York Bob
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4:13pm Wed 20 Jun 12

AngryandFrustrated says...

As I posted yesterday, I am a big fan of the Olympics and cannot wait for them to start. However, I cannot remember seeing mass hysteria on a nationwide scale like this since Princess Di died. I have no idea why!

I get the pride that many of the runners have - at the end of the day they have done good deeds that have been rightly rewarded by giving them this honour. (By honour, I mean being picked from 1000s of hopefuls). I also get that kids like days off school to shout and cheer and take part in dance competitions. However, I have 2 MAJOR objections to the hullaballoo surrounding the relay.

Firstly, it is the shameless advertising of the sponsers and the fact that the sponsers themselves have runners participating all over the country - they have done nothing worthy at all except work for one of the corporate sponsers - perhaps a reward for meeting a sales target or some glitzy competition winner.

Secondly, and most importantly, is the cost at a time when vital services are being cut, both nationally and locally. For example - Beckfield Lane tip. Closed due to cutbacks. It did benefit an entire section of York's population. Care budgets, cut back. NHS in York having to ration treatment, need I go on? Can anybody point to the long term benefit of having this circus in town? No I thought not.

I had the misfortune of being held back twice on my way to work this morning whilst the "support convoy" was taken, in 2 tranches it was that big, up the A19. Every NYP bike in the force must have been in York as there were at least 15 of them - good job they weren't needed on the roads attending a serious accident. Cost?! There were numerous buses, cars and sponsors vehicles, all of which will have been coddled and cosseted by our fair city. At what cost?!

I am not having a bah humbug moment. If the country was awash with money,I would have no problem with the bit of frivolity, the torch brings. However, the country is broke, York is broke and yet our resources appear to have contributed to the ongoing advertisement of a certain brown fizzy drink. Outrageous! But you know what the saying is - fools and their money are easily parted - says a lot about our esteemed Council leaders!!!””
As I posted yesterday, I am a big fan of the Olympics and cannot wait for them to start. However, I cannot remember seeing mass hysteria on a nationwide scale like this since Princess Di died. I have no idea why! I get the pride that many of the runners have - at the end of the day they have done good deeds that have been rightly rewarded by giving them this honour. (By honour, I mean being picked from 1000s of hopefuls). I also get that kids like days off school to shout and cheer and take part in dance competitions. However, I have 2 MAJOR objections to the hullaballoo surrounding the relay. Firstly, it is the shameless advertising of the sponsers and the fact that the sponsers themselves have runners participating all over the country - they have done nothing worthy at all except work for one of the corporate sponsers - perhaps a reward for meeting a sales target or some glitzy competition winner. Secondly, and most importantly, is the cost at a time when vital services are being cut, both nationally and locally. For example - Beckfield Lane tip. Closed due to cutbacks. It did benefit an entire section of York's population. Care budgets, cut back. NHS in York having to ration treatment, need I go on? Can anybody point to the long term benefit of having this circus in town? No I thought not. I had the misfortune of being held back twice on my way to work this morning whilst the "support convoy" was taken, in 2 tranches it was that big, up the A19. Every NYP bike in the force must have been in York as there were at least 15 of them - good job they weren't needed on the roads attending a serious accident. Cost?! There were numerous buses, cars and sponsors vehicles, all of which will have been coddled and cosseted by our fair city. At what cost?! I am not having a bah humbug moment. If the country was awash with money,I would have no problem with the bit of frivolity, the torch brings. However, the country is broke, York is broke and yet our resources appear to have contributed to the ongoing advertisement of a certain brown fizzy drink. Outrageous! But you know what the saying is - fools and their money are easily parted - says a lot about our esteemed Council leaders!!!”” AngryandFrustrated
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4:21pm Wed 20 Jun 12

AngryandFrustrated says...

"I took my kids to see the torch yesterday, and they experienced a great sense of community and civic pride as well as ideas for lots of sports they can play."

And how old are your children York Bob? If teenagers, I would be extremely surprised at your comments and if younger, they would have no idea what civic pride is or was. I would love you to ask them, in 10 years time, what they remembered about the torch coming to York. I speak from experience - many years ago, the torch relay came to my school and other than Tessa Sanderson, and missing classes, I remember nothing!

Also, I must take exception at your comment, "as well as ideas for lots of sports they can play." Isn't that what PE in school is all about? Did we really need every motorbike cop in North Yorkshire to be in York for this reason alone?

I am not having a go a you personally. I am sure that you enjoyed a trip out with your family and that you all had a good time. However, stand back, look at the immense cost at a time of austerity, and ask yourself honestly - was it really worth the £10000s it cost York and the £millions it is costing nationally?
"I took my kids to see the torch yesterday, and they experienced a great sense of community and civic pride as well as ideas for lots of sports they can play." And how old are your children York Bob? If teenagers, I would be extremely surprised at your comments and if younger, they would have no idea what civic pride is or was. I would love you to ask them, in 10 years time, what they remembered about the torch coming to York. I speak from experience - many years ago, the torch relay came to my school and other than Tessa Sanderson, and missing classes, I remember nothing! Also, I must take exception at your comment, "as well as ideas for lots of sports they can play." Isn't that what PE in school is all about? Did we really need every motorbike cop in North Yorkshire to be in York for this reason alone? I am not having a go a you personally. I am sure that you enjoyed a trip out with your family and that you all had a good time. However, stand back, look at the immense cost at a time of austerity, and ask yourself honestly - was it really worth the £10000s it cost York and the £millions it is costing nationally? AngryandFrustrated
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5:13pm Wed 20 Jun 12

R'Marcus says...

Shouter wrote:
ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
It's true, apes really are idiots. Mind you looking round the world, there are plenty of examples to choose from without getting excited about a fire-stick. If only sapiens were so passionate about global warming or the starving and the poor.
Well said Reggie. It's mass hysteria over a hyped over nothing. Personally I would be much more excited if a cure had been found for cancer, or all wars and killing stopped, than following a corporate bandwagon around the country.
I also agree with ReginaldBiscuit.
Thinking people ignore the so-called "flame".
It was a damp squid, and totally waste of public money.
[quote][p][bold]Shouter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: It's true, apes really are idiots. Mind you looking round the world, there are plenty of examples to choose from without getting excited about a fire-stick. If only sapiens were so passionate about global warming or the starving and the poor.[/p][/quote]Well said Reggie. It's mass hysteria over a hyped over nothing. Personally I would be much more excited if a cure had been found for cancer, or all wars and killing stopped, than following a corporate bandwagon around the country.[/p][/quote]I also agree with ReginaldBiscuit. Thinking people ignore the so-called "flame". It was a damp squid, and totally waste of public money. R'Marcus
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10:13pm Wed 20 Jun 12

pedalling paul says...

AngryandFrustrated wrote:
"I took my kids to see the torch yesterday, and they experienced a great sense of community and civic pride as well as ideas for lots of sports they can play."

And how old are your children York Bob? If teenagers, I would be extremely surprised at your comments and if younger, they would have no idea what civic pride is or was. I would love you to ask them, in 10 years time, what they remembered about the torch coming to York. I speak from experience - many years ago, the torch relay came to my school and other than Tessa Sanderson, and missing classes, I remember nothing!

Also, I must take exception at your comment, "as well as ideas for lots of sports they can play." Isn't that what PE in school is all about? Did we really need every motorbike cop in North Yorkshire to be in York for this reason alone?

I am not having a go a you personally. I am sure that you enjoyed a trip out with your family and that you all had a good time. However, stand back, look at the immense cost at a time of austerity, and ask yourself honestly - was it really worth the £10000s it cost York and the £millions it is costing nationally?
there were also a lot of local cops & PCSO's on pedal cycles..very successful for getting around in such circumstances.
[quote][p][bold]AngryandFrustrated[/bold] wrote: "I took my kids to see the torch yesterday, and they experienced a great sense of community and civic pride as well as ideas for lots of sports they can play." And how old are your children York Bob? If teenagers, I would be extremely surprised at your comments and if younger, they would have no idea what civic pride is or was. I would love you to ask them, in 10 years time, what they remembered about the torch coming to York. I speak from experience - many years ago, the torch relay came to my school and other than Tessa Sanderson, and missing classes, I remember nothing! Also, I must take exception at your comment, "as well as ideas for lots of sports they can play." Isn't that what PE in school is all about? Did we really need every motorbike cop in North Yorkshire to be in York for this reason alone? I am not having a go a you personally. I am sure that you enjoyed a trip out with your family and that you all had a good time. However, stand back, look at the immense cost at a time of austerity, and ask yourself honestly - was it really worth the £10000s it cost York and the £millions it is costing nationally?[/p][/quote]there were also a lot of local cops & PCSO's on pedal cycles..very successful for getting around in such circumstances. pedalling paul
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1:28am Thu 21 Jun 12

Rebeccah says...

@ReginaldBiscuit , AngryandFrustrated and others posting negative comments about Olympic Torch relay. Obviously, you totally do not get idea of an abstract of certain social events. Well, since I can see that you're so ignorant, I should give up, as there is probably no hope for you. but I'll try. Olypics is not only about sport and a "fire on a stick". It is an uspoken idea of people being united and happy with each other, ragardless race, ethnicity, wealth, physical or mental condition. Olympic torch is a symbol of a global well being. Recognizing symbols is an attribute of abstractive thinking. Abstractive thinking is an attribute of inteligent being...Where are you then?...Apey?...
@ReginaldBiscuit , AngryandFrustrated and others posting negative comments about Olympic Torch relay. Obviously, you totally do not get idea of an abstract of certain social events. Well, since I can see that you're so ignorant, I should give up, as there is probably no hope for you. but I'll try. Olypics is not only about sport and a "fire on a stick". It is an uspoken idea of people being united and happy with each other, ragardless race, ethnicity, wealth, physical or mental condition. Olympic torch is a symbol of a global well being. Recognizing symbols is an attribute of abstractive thinking. Abstractive thinking is an attribute of inteligent being...Where are you then?...Apey?... Rebeccah
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2:21am Thu 21 Jun 12

Magicman! says...

Shouter wrote:
ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
It's true, apes really are idiots. Mind you looking round the world, there are plenty of examples to choose from without getting excited about a fire-stick. If only sapiens were so passionate about global warming or the starving and the poor.
Well said Reggie. It's mass hysteria over a hyped over nothing. Personally I would be much more excited if a cure had been found for cancer, or all wars and killing stopped, than following a corporate bandwagon around the country.
Ironic that you think the Olympic Torch Relay is "mass hysteria over a hyped-over nothing", and agree with Reggie who seems to believe in man-made Global Warming, which IS an over-hyped nothing - started in America (like most things that harm the public) as a method of population control that has escalated as another excue to tax people and companies more... whereas the TRUE scientists, who are getting the same funding as the fake ones, are finding out pretty much on a weekly basis that the original fearmongering climate models aren't worth the paper they're written on.
Are you doing anything to cure cancer, prevent wars, or stop people being killed? No? didn't think so, so why poo-poo a once in a lifetime event that brings people from all parts of society out onto the streets in a happy mood.
Yeah sure the outright advertising from the beverage company, a banking group, and the mobile device company were not required - but the Olympic Flame and what it represents will never again pass through York in the lifetimes of most people that saw it on either day... and if you were too busy on your high horse to miss out on seeing it then I feel sorry for you.
[quote][p][bold]Shouter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: It's true, apes really are idiots. Mind you looking round the world, there are plenty of examples to choose from without getting excited about a fire-stick. If only sapiens were so passionate about global warming or the starving and the poor.[/p][/quote]Well said Reggie. It's mass hysteria over a hyped over nothing. Personally I would be much more excited if a cure had been found for cancer, or all wars and killing stopped, than following a corporate bandwagon around the country.[/p][/quote]Ironic that you think the Olympic Torch Relay is "mass hysteria over a hyped-over nothing", and agree with Reggie who seems to believe in man-made Global Warming, which IS an over-hyped nothing - started in America (like most things that harm the public) as a method of population control that has escalated as another excue to tax people and companies more... whereas the TRUE scientists, who are getting the same funding as the fake ones, are finding out pretty much on a weekly basis that the original fearmongering climate models aren't worth the paper they're written on. Are you doing anything to cure cancer, prevent wars, or stop people being killed? No? didn't think so, so why poo-poo a once in a lifetime event that brings people from all parts of society out onto the streets in a happy mood. Yeah sure the outright advertising from the beverage company, a banking group, and the mobile device company were not required - but the Olympic Flame and what it represents will never again pass through York in the lifetimes of most people that saw it on either day... and if you were too busy on your high horse to miss out on seeing it then I feel sorry for you. Magicman!
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2:22am Thu 21 Jun 12

Magicman! says...

Oh yeah, I also meant to add that Jessica Hoggarth is actually the sister of somebody I know, but I didn't realise she was taking part until a couple of days ago!
Oh yeah, I also meant to add that Jessica Hoggarth is actually the sister of somebody I know, but I didn't realise she was taking part until a couple of days ago! Magicman!
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9:05am Thu 21 Jun 12

ReginaldBiscuit says...

Magicman! wrote:
Shouter wrote:
ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
It's true, apes really are idiots. Mind you looking round the world, there are plenty of examples to choose from without getting excited about a fire-stick. If only sapiens were so passionate about global warming or the starving and the poor.
Well said Reggie. It's mass hysteria over a hyped over nothing. Personally I would be much more excited if a cure had been found for cancer, or all wars and killing stopped, than following a corporate bandwagon around the country.
Ironic that you think the Olympic Torch Relay is "mass hysteria over a hyped-over nothing", and agree with Reggie who seems to believe in man-made Global Warming, which IS an over-hyped nothing - started in America (like most things that harm the public) as a method of population control that has escalated as another excue to tax people and companies more... whereas the TRUE scientists, who are getting the same funding as the fake ones, are finding out pretty much on a weekly basis that the original fearmongering climate models aren't worth the paper they're written on.
Are you doing anything to cure cancer, prevent wars, or stop people being killed? No? didn't think so, so why poo-poo a once in a lifetime event that brings people from all parts of society out onto the streets in a happy mood.
Yeah sure the outright advertising from the beverage company, a banking group, and the mobile device company were not required - but the Olympic Flame and what it represents will never again pass through York in the lifetimes of most people that saw it on either day... and if you were too busy on your high horse to miss out on seeing it then I feel sorry for you.
Are you Sarah Palin?
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shouter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: It's true, apes really are idiots. Mind you looking round the world, there are plenty of examples to choose from without getting excited about a fire-stick. If only sapiens were so passionate about global warming or the starving and the poor.[/p][/quote]Well said Reggie. It's mass hysteria over a hyped over nothing. Personally I would be much more excited if a cure had been found for cancer, or all wars and killing stopped, than following a corporate bandwagon around the country.[/p][/quote]Ironic that you think the Olympic Torch Relay is "mass hysteria over a hyped-over nothing", and agree with Reggie who seems to believe in man-made Global Warming, which IS an over-hyped nothing - started in America (like most things that harm the public) as a method of population control that has escalated as another excue to tax people and companies more... whereas the TRUE scientists, who are getting the same funding as the fake ones, are finding out pretty much on a weekly basis that the original fearmongering climate models aren't worth the paper they're written on. Are you doing anything to cure cancer, prevent wars, or stop people being killed? No? didn't think so, so why poo-poo a once in a lifetime event that brings people from all parts of society out onto the streets in a happy mood. Yeah sure the outright advertising from the beverage company, a banking group, and the mobile device company were not required - but the Olympic Flame and what it represents will never again pass through York in the lifetimes of most people that saw it on either day... and if you were too busy on your high horse to miss out on seeing it then I feel sorry for you.[/p][/quote]Are you Sarah Palin? ReginaldBiscuit
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12:20pm Thu 21 Jun 12

York Bob says...

R'Marcus wrote:
Shouter wrote:
ReginaldBiscuit wrote: It's true, apes really are idiots. Mind you looking round the world, there are plenty of examples to choose from without getting excited about a fire-stick. If only sapiens were so passionate about global warming or the starving and the poor.
Well said Reggie. It's mass hysteria over a hyped over nothing. Personally I would be much more excited if a cure had been found for cancer, or all wars and killing stopped, than following a corporate bandwagon around the country.
I also agree with ReginaldBiscuit. Thinking people ignore the so-called "flame". It was a damp squid, and totally waste of public money.
I love this. "Thinking people" would know it was a "squib", not a "squid".
[quote][p][bold]R'Marcus[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shouter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: It's true, apes really are idiots. Mind you looking round the world, there are plenty of examples to choose from without getting excited about a fire-stick. If only sapiens were so passionate about global warming or the starving and the poor.[/p][/quote]Well said Reggie. It's mass hysteria over a hyped over nothing. Personally I would be much more excited if a cure had been found for cancer, or all wars and killing stopped, than following a corporate bandwagon around the country.[/p][/quote]I also agree with ReginaldBiscuit. Thinking people ignore the so-called "flame". It was a damp squid, and totally waste of public money.[/p][/quote]I love this. "Thinking people" would know it was a "squib", not a "squid". York Bob
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12:28pm Thu 21 Jun 12

York Bob says...

A&F - Nice to have someone disagree in a constructive way. I have no idea how much it cost or how it was funded, so I take your point. But then there are always things that some people will deem a waste of money and some people will like, and 25,000 people (at least) benefitted from the torch event. Sponsorship is, alas, a necessary evil - without them it would cost even more.

My kids might not remember it, but for them (and for me) the whole torch party made me think that the Olympics was a British event and not just a London event.

I don't mind people objecting to it on sensible grounds, but objecting to it on the basis that we haven't cured cancer yet i just silly.
A&F - Nice to have someone disagree in a constructive way. I have no idea how much it cost or how it was funded, so I take your point. But then there are always things that some people will deem a waste of money and some people will like, and 25,000 people (at least) benefitted from the torch event. Sponsorship is, alas, a necessary evil - without them it would cost even more. My kids might not remember it, but for them (and for me) the whole torch party made me think that the Olympics was a British event and not just a London event. I don't mind people objecting to it on sensible grounds, but objecting to it on the basis that we haven't cured cancer yet i just silly. York Bob
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1:58pm Thu 21 Jun 12

AngryandFrustrated says...

York Bob wrote:
A&F - Nice to have someone disagree in a constructive way. I have no idea how much it cost or how it was funded, so I take your point. But then there are always things that some people will deem a waste of money and some people will like, and 25,000 people (at least) benefitted from the torch event. Sponsorship is, alas, a necessary evil - without them it would cost even more. My kids might not remember it, but for them (and for me) the whole torch party made me think that the Olympics was a British event and not just a London event. I don't mind people objecting to it on sensible grounds, but objecting to it on the basis that we haven't cured cancer yet i just silly.
I'm all for constructive disagreement as there are too many posters who resort to personal insults! ;-)

I'm sure if I had had the opportunity to "have a look" I would have done and I'm definately all for something that promotes unity. I just remain a little disturbed that something that was once the domain of amateur sportsmen and women, is now dominated by corporote sponsorship and greed, and worst of all, said corporate sponsorship and greed is subsidised by the tax payers at a time when front line services are being cut.

Rant over! Glad you enjoyed the event tho!
[quote][p][bold]York Bob[/bold] wrote: A&F - Nice to have someone disagree in a constructive way. I have no idea how much it cost or how it was funded, so I take your point. But then there are always things that some people will deem a waste of money and some people will like, and 25,000 people (at least) benefitted from the torch event. Sponsorship is, alas, a necessary evil - without them it would cost even more. My kids might not remember it, but for them (and for me) the whole torch party made me think that the Olympics was a British event and not just a London event. I don't mind people objecting to it on sensible grounds, but objecting to it on the basis that we haven't cured cancer yet i just silly.[/p][/quote]I'm all for constructive disagreement as there are too many posters who resort to personal insults! ;-) I'm sure if I had had the opportunity to "have a look" I would have done and I'm definately all for something that promotes unity. I just remain a little disturbed that something that was once the domain of amateur sportsmen and women, is now dominated by corporote sponsorship and greed, and worst of all, said corporate sponsorship and greed is subsidised by the tax payers at a time when front line services are being cut. Rant over! Glad you enjoyed the event tho! AngryandFrustrated
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8:23pm Thu 21 Jun 12

marvell says...

AngryandFrustrated wrote:
As I posted yesterday, I am a big fan of the Olympics and cannot wait for them to start. However, I cannot remember seeing mass hysteria on a nationwide scale like this since Princess Di died. I have no idea why!

I get the pride that many of the runners have - at the end of the day they have done good deeds that have been rightly rewarded by giving them this honour. (By honour, I mean being picked from 1000s of hopefuls). I also get that kids like days off school to shout and cheer and take part in dance competitions. However, I have 2 MAJOR objections to the hullaballoo surrounding the relay.

Firstly, it is the shameless advertising of the sponsers and the fact that the sponsers themselves have runners participating all over the country - they have done nothing worthy at all except work for one of the corporate sponsers - perhaps a reward for meeting a sales target or some glitzy competition winner.

Secondly, and most importantly, is the cost at a time when vital services are being cut, both nationally and locally. For example - Beckfield Lane tip. Closed due to cutbacks. It did benefit an entire section of York's population. Care budgets, cut back. NHS in York having to ration treatment, need I go on? Can anybody point to the long term benefit of having this circus in town? No I thought not.

I had the misfortune of being held back twice on my way to work this morning whilst the "support convoy" was taken, in 2 tranches it was that big, up the A19. Every NYP bike in the force must have been in York as there were at least 15 of them - good job they weren't needed on the roads attending a serious accident. Cost?! There were numerous buses, cars and sponsors vehicles, all of which will have been coddled and cosseted by our fair city. At what cost?!

I am not having a bah humbug moment. If the country was awash with money,I would have no problem with the bit of frivolity, the torch brings. However, the country is broke, York is broke and yet our resources appear to have contributed to the ongoing advertisement of a certain brown fizzy drink. Outrageous! But you know what the saying is - fools and their money are easily parted - says a lot about our esteemed Council leaders!!!””
Beckfield Lane did not have to shut at all and has nothing to do with government cutbacks and more to do with the stupidity and hubris of the current administration.

Watch a while and wait for them to sell the site for housing and make a fast buck that will disappear quickly. They've got form for this - remember them trying to sell off Union Terrace?
[quote][p][bold]AngryandFrustrated[/bold] wrote: As I posted yesterday, I am a big fan of the Olympics and cannot wait for them to start. However, I cannot remember seeing mass hysteria on a nationwide scale like this since Princess Di died. I have no idea why! I get the pride that many of the runners have - at the end of the day they have done good deeds that have been rightly rewarded by giving them this honour. (By honour, I mean being picked from 1000s of hopefuls). I also get that kids like days off school to shout and cheer and take part in dance competitions. However, I have 2 MAJOR objections to the hullaballoo surrounding the relay. Firstly, it is the shameless advertising of the sponsers and the fact that the sponsers themselves have runners participating all over the country - they have done nothing worthy at all except work for one of the corporate sponsers - perhaps a reward for meeting a sales target or some glitzy competition winner. Secondly, and most importantly, is the cost at a time when vital services are being cut, both nationally and locally. For example - Beckfield Lane tip. Closed due to cutbacks. It did benefit an entire section of York's population. Care budgets, cut back. NHS in York having to ration treatment, need I go on? Can anybody point to the long term benefit of having this circus in town? No I thought not. I had the misfortune of being held back twice on my way to work this morning whilst the "support convoy" was taken, in 2 tranches it was that big, up the A19. Every NYP bike in the force must have been in York as there were at least 15 of them - good job they weren't needed on the roads attending a serious accident. Cost?! There were numerous buses, cars and sponsors vehicles, all of which will have been coddled and cosseted by our fair city. At what cost?! I am not having a bah humbug moment. If the country was awash with money,I would have no problem with the bit of frivolity, the torch brings. However, the country is broke, York is broke and yet our resources appear to have contributed to the ongoing advertisement of a certain brown fizzy drink. Outrageous! But you know what the saying is - fools and their money are easily parted - says a lot about our esteemed Council leaders!!!””[/p][/quote]Beckfield Lane did not have to shut at all and has nothing to do with government cutbacks and more to do with the stupidity and hubris of the current administration. Watch a while and wait for them to sell the site for housing and make a fast buck that will disappear quickly. They've got form for this - remember them trying to sell off Union Terrace? marvell
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