Police call for Haverfordwest venue's licence to be revoked

Alleged underage drinking and sex along with a lack of management communication have led police to call for a Haverfordwest town centre night spot's licence to be revoked.

Dyfed-Powys Police has "grave concerns" about the management of Minnies Nite Spot after a number of incidents which resulted in teenagers being taken to hospital following what are billed as 16 to 21-year-old events.

In a shocking report police state that it is "only by good fortune" that no-one has died from excessive ingestion of alcohol "as a consequence of these events at Minnies".

Minnies is owned by Rose Owen of Haverfordwest, who is also the Premises Licence Holder.

Included in police reports is an eyewitness statement from a man who recognised an "extremely vulnerable girl" so intoxicated an ambulance was called in February this year.

A girl of 14 was observed under the influence of alcohol on the premises and two other teenagers were taken to hospital.

Inspector Kath Griffiths, who prepared the licensing report, said that this event had been intended to be of those aged over 16 but door staff were not checking the ages of the children attending or ensuring that the location was safe.

The report adds that photocopied ID of passport , some altered, were being accepted by door staff and a lack of ability to care for those who have pre-loaded - got drunk before attending - puts young people at risk.

Concerns were also about a number of people significantly older than 21 in attendance - an age limit imposed to protect young people from predatory older people.

Police officers also reported finding "numerous young couples aged 15 and 14 in comprising positions in and around the riverside area".

Issues about communication and not informing the police about up coming events is also highlighted.

Pembrokeshire County Council's Licensing Sub-Committee will review its licence tomorrow (Thursday, July 12th).

If committee members decide not to revoke Mrs Owen's licence the police licensing team request that an over 21 age limit is put on the premises, it be closed for two months for management reflection and training, opening hours restricted to 11pm and the removal of Kelly Bower as Designated Premise Supervisor.

"If the DPS is removed then it is suggested that Mrs Owen does not hold this position as she has been present during these events and shown significant disregard for the protection of children from harm as wall as an inability to manage the premises," the report adds.

Mrs Owen told the Western Telegraph that she was being made a scape goat and had followed all recommendations made to her.

She also pointed out the number of up coming functions arranged including the town's walking carnival and carnival queen competition next month.

"I turned Minnies into a function centre last year.

"I have not served any alcohol to anyone underage nor am I being accused of it. The night in question was a family party which was put on Facebook and a load of youngsters turned up.

"I provide a much needed service to the people of the town as there is not a function centre. There have been no incidents of violence or anything like that. When having a family function the premises is not open to the general public.

"I'm not responsible or connected in anyway to the problems the council is having with child safety concerns and social services."

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3:33pm Wed 11 Jul 12

quentin says...

Both sides in this can't be right. Someone is not telling the truth.
Both sides in this can't be right. Someone is not telling the truth. quentin

5:43pm Wed 11 Jul 12

Tttoommy says...

quentin wrote:
Both sides in this can't be right. Someone is not telling the truth.
loads of kids "preload" or take a small bottle of vodka so both sides can be telling the truth
[quote][p][bold]quentin[/bold] wrote: Both sides in this can't be right. Someone is not telling the truth.[/p][/quote]loads of kids "preload" or take a small bottle of vodka so both sides can be telling the truth Tttoommy

8:58pm Wed 11 Jul 12

willowess77 says...

I beg to differ with Mrs Owen, under age teenagers DO get into Minnies on a regular basis and DO get served alcohol and way beyond what they can cope with. And this happens not just on private family parties !!! Whether teenagers are preloaded or not ..... they still get into these venues and still continue to drink !!
I beg to differ with Mrs Owen, under age teenagers DO get into Minnies on a regular basis and DO get served alcohol and way beyond what they can cope with. And this happens not just on private family parties !!! Whether teenagers are preloaded or not ..... they still get into these venues and still continue to drink !! willowess77

9:58pm Wed 11 Jul 12

PembsLocals says...

I agree with the above. The owner of Minnies (Rose Owen) runs these events and family parties to make as much money as possible, and would appear with a complete disregard to the well - being and saftey of the children there.
I agree with the above. The owner of Minnies (Rose Owen) runs these events and family parties to make as much money as possible, and would appear with a complete disregard to the well - being and saftey of the children there. PembsLocals

8:29am Thu 12 Jul 12

Tttoommy says...

Sorry guys but exactly what's wrong with making money?
whatever happens with the licence kids will get together and get drunk - If not somewhere safe like a club then outside your house or some shopping centre
Sorry guys but exactly what's wrong with making money? whatever happens with the licence kids will get together and get drunk - If not somewhere safe like a club then outside your house or some shopping centre Tttoommy

12:14pm Thu 12 Jul 12

minnimum says...

Rose Owen is telling the truth about this particular night- it was a private function. I know because my teen was invited. It did get massively out of hand because of kids "pre-loading" & Minnie's couldn't have prevented that.
Rose Owen is telling the truth about this particular night- it was a private function. I know because my teen was invited. It did get massively out of hand because of kids "pre-loading" & Minnie's couldn't have prevented that. minnimum

9:48pm Thu 12 Jul 12

minnimum says...

Also, if Minnie's is to lose/have a restricted licence, so should Reload, who (as reported on this very website) recently hosted an End of Exam party during which a 15 year old was assaulted.
Also, if Minnie's is to lose/have a restricted licence, so should Reload, who (as reported on this very website) recently hosted an End of Exam party during which a 15 year old was assaulted. minnimum

11:28pm Fri 13 Jul 12

A Northerner in Pembrokeshire says...

The assault never took place in the venue, however I agree one rule for one..... I think a lot of places need to be looked at including eddies..
The assault never took place in the venue, however I agree one rule for one..... I think a lot of places need to be looked at including eddies.. A Northerner in Pembrokeshire

11:35pm Fri 13 Jul 12

willowess77 says...

Just to clarify .... im not on about the money making aspect. Im on about the safety and wellbeing of teenagers. We cannot say "ahhh well at least its being done in a safe place", its not safe, we shouldnt condone it and I personally think Mrs Owen is wearing blinkers if she continues to say underage drinking does not occur in her premises. Just pop up to the local A&E department of a friday / saturday night and see the ages of intoxicated teenagers who have attended such premises.
Just to clarify .... im not on about the money making aspect. Im on about the safety and wellbeing of teenagers. We cannot say "ahhh well at least its being done in a safe place", its not safe, we shouldnt condone it and I personally think Mrs Owen is wearing blinkers if she continues to say underage drinking does not occur in her premises. Just pop up to the local A&E department of a friday / saturday night and see the ages of intoxicated teenagers who have attended such premises. willowess77

12:28pm Sat 14 Jul 12

PembsLocals says...

It's impossible for underage drinking to take place on premises with a soft drink only bar and bag searches conducted on the door. (Which is how reload operates) The problem with minnies is/ was older people buying for younger ones....
The fact of the matter is that this sort of thing ruins it for everyone. We were all young once and wanted a party! All of the upcoming reload events have been cancelled due to this **** up.
It's impossible for underage drinking to take place on premises with a soft drink only bar and bag searches conducted on the door. (Which is how reload operates) The problem with minnies is/ was older people buying for younger ones.... The fact of the matter is that this sort of thing ruins it for everyone. We were all young once and wanted a party! All of the upcoming reload events have been cancelled due to this **** up. PembsLocals

11:23pm Tue 17 Jul 12

minnimum says...

I do know that a lot of kids hang around outside these venues not able to get inside & that's where a lot of the problems come from. I applaud Minnie's & Reload for trying to offer teens somewhere to go and party but the fact is, too many of them have older friends etc who purchase alcohol for them, causing these problems. If they're not drunk outside Minnie's or Reload, they're somewhere else, be it in public or in a private house. It's not Minnie's or Reload's fault - teens will drink if & when they can. It's not the responsibility of club owners to make sure underage teens can't access alcohol outside of their premises.
I do know that a lot of kids hang around outside these venues not able to get inside & that's where a lot of the problems come from. I applaud Minnie's & Reload for trying to offer teens somewhere to go and party but the fact is, too many of them have older friends etc who purchase alcohol for them, causing these problems. If they're not drunk outside Minnie's or Reload, they're somewhere else, be it in public or in a private house. It's not Minnie's or Reload's fault - teens will drink if & when they can. It's not the responsibility of club owners to make sure underage teens can't access alcohol outside of their premises. minnimum

11:35am Wed 18 Jul 12

bigdavewales says...

Anyone who has been on a night out in Haverfordwest in recent times will tell you this is a problem which is not restricted to Minnies. A Night out in Eddies will show you that underage drinking and acts of violence occur weekly. Eddies seems to get away with it though. This could have something to do with the amount of contacts Mr Edwards has on the local council or maybe being drinking buddies with an Ex Chief Superintendent doesn’t hurt. That’s probably just coincidence though
Anyone who has been on a night out in Haverfordwest in recent times will tell you this is a problem which is not restricted to Minnies. A Night out in Eddies will show you that underage drinking and acts of violence occur weekly. Eddies seems to get away with it though. This could have something to do with the amount of contacts Mr Edwards has on the local council or maybe being drinking buddies with an Ex Chief Superintendent doesn’t hurt. That’s probably just coincidence though bigdavewales

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